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From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:29:31 -0400
So culture, life styles and siestas play no part?

Chuck Norcutt


On 7/27/2013 4:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> The European countries around the Mediterranean--Italy, Greece,
> Spain--tend to have a lower incidence of obesity, heart disease, and
> other lifestyle diseases than the northern countries. They also have
> good life expectancy statistics, especially considering that the
> average income per capita is much lower (30% or so) here than in
> Scandinavia or the US. Since people here smoke at least as much as
> people in the north, and exercise less, the only remaining variable
> is the food they eat. This is not a "beyond reasonable doubt" kind of
> thing--you will never get that when dealing with complex phenomena
> like this. But surely common sense has a part to play too.
>
> Cheers, Nathan
>
> On 27 Jul 2013, at 20:22, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>
>> So you've defined the Spanish Mediterranean diet.  What about the
>> French, Italian, Croatian, Albanian, Greek and Turkish, etc.
>> versions? And how is it that there is *no doubt* which is
>> healthier?  Can you remove all doubt about removing the confounding
>> variables that plague all dietary research?
>>
>> ps:  I happen to agree that whatever a Mediterranean diet is it's
>> *likely* more healthy than a full English breakfast.  On the other
>> hand I'm very far from agreeing that there's *no doubt* about it.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 7/27/2013 1:45 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> It is easy enough to define it when you live here. Compared to
>>> Northern Europe (and the US), the diet here in Spain contains
>>> much more seafood, more vegetables and less red meat. A
>>> traditional breakfast food, for example, is a toasted baguette
>>> with ground-up chunky tomato and some salt and pepper and a bit
>>> of olive oil to taste. I very much enjoy my full English
>>> breakfasts when I am in the UK, but there is no doubt which is
>>> the healthier diet.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>>>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't have any objections to a Mediterranean diet but I have
>>>> never recommended it since I don't believe it can be well
>>>> defined.
>>>
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> Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu
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