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Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Scottish weather
From: Philippe Amard <photo.philippe.amard@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 18:54:15 +0200
Other countries, Europe is a grid where electricity is bought and sold from
country to country.

Amities
Philippe


2016-10-18 18:43 GMT+02:00 Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> I challenge you to find where I've said anything at all about the
> necessity of burning dead dinosaurs.  What I did say is that it's necessary
> to have complete backup generating capacity.  If the Swedes will sell hydro
> and nuclear power to Denmark as backup capacity that's great.  But there's
> a limit.  I don't think there are likely to be any new hydro resources
> coming on line any time soon and neither will Sweden
> be building any new reactors except as replacements for existing
> capacity.  With fixed hydro and nuclear capacity their own energy growth is
> dependent on renewables.  Who gets the hydro and nuclear backup capacity
> then?
>
> Chuck Norcutt
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> On 10/18/2016 3:35 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
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>> Complete rubbish that ignores the realities of today. Denmark is
>> mentioned in the article. The country generates half of its
>> electricity from wind, and the places where the turbines are—mainly
>> on the North Sea coast—the wind is very reliable. And when needed, we
>> can buy electricity from neighbouring countries like Sweden with lots
>> of stable sources like hydro and nuclear power. There is absolutely
>> no reason to burn dead dinosaurs in power plants these days.
>>
>> Cheers, nathan
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>> Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> http://
>> <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu PICTURE OF THE WEEK:
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> Cycling:
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> YNWA
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>> On 17 Oct 2016, at 12:54, Chuck Norcutt
>>> <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it foolish rather than impressive.  This same wind powered
>>> grid that provided 100% of electrical demand for a single day could
>>> tomorrow drop to 2% of electrical demand.  Because of that everyone
>>> of these existing wind turbines and those yet to come represent
>>> duplication of existing generating capacity.  That's because power
>>> must still be produced when the wind doesn't blow.
>>>
>>> Why is it that the renewables industry has been allowed to press
>>> ahead with new solar and wind farms when there is no practical
>>> battery/storage technology known that can store the surplus power
>>> for when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow?  A day of
>>> reckoning is coming when people finally realize that all of this
>>> investment is duplicating the existing power generating capacity
>>> with no hope of the renewables making it on their own... ever.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
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>>> On 10/16/2016 4:34 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link, Philippe.  Impressive!
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>
>>>> On 10/16/2016 2:49 PM, Philippe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm really happy the Scots have been able to make something out
>>>>> of it these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/j58epyj
>>>>>
>>>>> Amities Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>>
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