Re: [OM] OT: Scottish weather

[Chuck Norcutt]

I challenge you to find where I've said anything at all about the 
necessity of burning dead dinosaurs.  What I did say is that it's 
necessary to have complete backup generating capacity.  If the Swedes 
will sell hydro and nuclear power to Denmark as backup capacity that's 
great.  But there's a limit.  I don't think there are likely to be any 
new hydro resources coming on line any time soon and neither will Sweden
be building any new reactors except as replacements for existing 
capacity.  With fixed hydro and nuclear capacity their own energy growth 
is dependent on renewables.  Who gets the hydro and nuclear backup 
capacity then?
Chuck Norcutt


On 10/18/2016 3:35 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Complete rubbish that ignores the realities of today. Denmark is
> mentioned in the article. The country generates half of its
> electricity from wind, and the places where the turbines are—mainly
> on the North Sea coast—the wind is very reliable. And when needed, we
> can buy electricity from neighbouring countries like Sweden with lots
> of stable sources like hydro and nuclear power. There is absolutely
> no reason to burn dead dinosaurs in power plants these days.
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> Cheers, nathan
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> > On 17 Oct 2016, at 12:54, Chuck Norcutt
> > <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > I think it foolish rather than impressive.  This same wind powered
> > grid that provided 100% of electrical demand for a single day could
> > tomorrow drop to 2% of electrical demand.  Because of that everyone
> > of these existing wind turbines and those yet to come represent
> > duplication of existing generating capacity.  That's because power
> > must still be produced when the wind doesn't blow.
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> > Why is it that the renewables industry has been allowed to press
> > ahead with new solar and wind farms when there is no practical
> > battery/storage technology known that can store the surplus power
> > for when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow?  A day of
> > reckoning is coming when people finally realize that all of this
> > investment is duplicating the existing power generating capacity
> > with no hope of the renewables making it on their own... ever.
> >
> > Chuck Norcutt
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> > On 10/16/2016 4:34 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
> > > Thanks for the link, Philippe.  Impressive!
> > >
> > > Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA
> > >
> > > On 10/16/2016 2:49 PM, Philippe wrote:
> > > > I'm really happy the Scots have been able to make something out
> > > > of it these days.
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> > > > http://tinyurl.com/j58epyj
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> > > > Amities Philippe
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