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Re: [OM] Paging Moose, re. Shutter shock

Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Moose, re. Shutter shock
From: Mike Gordon via olympus <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:23:31 -0400
CN writes:
<<I don't see how flash sync shutter speed has any bearing on the amount of 
time the EFC takes to clear the sensor. Clearing the sensor takes place before 
the EFC shutter is considered open. Then it's open <<(instantly), the flash and 
ambient exposure occurs and the second curtain closes.
<<What's odd about the EFC is that the sensor clearing time should place a 
limit on the shot-to-shot delay time in the same way that a 1/8 second shutter 
shock delay means you can't possibly go faster than 8 <<frames/sec minus the 
shutter speed time for each exposure.

<<The other oddity (and I really don't know how this is handled) is the 
disparity in exposure times from top to bottom with electronic first curtain 
but mechanical second curtain. If the EFC is instantly open then the <<exposure 
starts evenly across the entire surface of the sensor. Yet, when the mechanical 
second curtain closes, the exposure drops unevenly across the surface as the 
curtain starts covering the sensor from <<top to bottom or bottom to top 
(whichever way the curtain moves). This is probably immaterial for long 
exposure times (relative to curtain travel time) but not immaterial for fast 
shutter speeds. Perhaps that's <<why EFC is not used at higher speeds. Or maybe 
EFC is not instantaneous but rather it enables rows of pixels across the sensor 
in a timed, rolling wave at the same speed as the mechanical first curtain. I 
<<don't know.


EFC is not instantaneous and is about 1/10 to 1/15 I've seen with GM-1/5.  In 
general with mechanical curtains the faster the first curtain, the faster the 
sync speed and all things being equal more shutter shock 
in mirrorless---witness E-P5 with horrible Shutter Shock. (second curtain must 
follow at same speed to keep exposure even)  Perhaps the whole procedure is 
different with EFCS and flash but I don't see how one can get a sync speed of 
1/50th w/o some tricks. (why I let questions like this gnaw at me, I don't 
know) GM-1 goes to 10 bit when going to total e-shutter and can clear the 
sensor in 1/25 sec.  Interestingly Oly chose in E-M5II to stay 12 bit RAW with 
EFCS and clear it in 1/20--a very good compromise.  That can still result in 
rolling shutter artifacts and banding in some light like fluorescent.  

Oh, here is some data on GM-1.


http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53300241

Still not seeing the light in EFC with flash,  Mike

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