...and you thought Argentinian Tail was a lobster.
Charlie ;^)
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Clay Nichols <
Clay.Nichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I will ask our Governor to pick up a steak for me the next time he is in
> Argentina for a nookie run.
>
> >>> Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 08/16/09 2:24 PM >>>
> I am all for BBQ, beer and tailgating. But good steak should not be
> cooked on a BBQ unless it is from Argentina and the person cooking it
> is from there as well. In any event, for us this is relevant since we
> have recently given up eating red meat--only chicken and fish now.
>
> Nathan
>
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> On Aug 16, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Clay Nichols wrote:
>
> > Who cares. It is all pre-steak. Break out the grill, potatoes and
> > beer! It is almost tailgating season.
> >
> >>>> Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxx> 08/16/09 1:58 PM >>>
> > I understand what you are saying, though there seems to be a bit of
> > consumer bias in it. If the political power of family farmers seems
> > disproportionate to their numbers, I suspect it is because the numbers
> > don't tell the whole story, and it is certainly not because they
> > actually are wielders of power. It doesn't take the numbers of
> > farmers today to raise the amount of food we need, as compared to a
> > century ago, but that doesn't lessen the vital significance of
> > agriculture. Agricultural commodities are not like other commodities
> > since we can't live without them. No doubt, though, that there are
> > sacred cows in agricultural policy, and no doubt the example New
> > Zealand provides is one to hope to achieve more universally.
> >
> > Joel W.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Nathan
> > Wajsman<photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> There is no particular advantage in supplying your own food. If a
> >> farmer in another country can produce the stuff you eat cheaper and
> >> better than you are better off buying from that country and devoting
> >> your own resources to something you are good at. "Food security" is
> >> 18th century mercantilism.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, most countries have a sentimental attachment to
> >> agriculture, not surprising since just a few generations ago it was
> >> the biggest industry almost everywhere. Today, even though farmers
> >> typically comprise only 2-3% of the population in OECD countries, the
> >> farm lobby has disproportionate political power and uses it to
> >> perpetuate price supports, protection from foreign competition and so
> >> on. The US is by no means the only or the worst sinner--those honors
> >> belong to countries like Switzerland, Japan and Norway. The EU is as
> >> bad as the US with the stupid Common Agricultural Policy.
> >>
> >> The only virtuous country is New Zealand, which some time in the
> >> early
> >> 1990s (I cannot remember the exact year and I am too rushed to look
> >> it
> >> up right now) abolished almost all agricultural subsidies and tariffs
> >> on food imports. Guess what? Today, New Zealand still has a thriving
> >> farm sector, but one that survives thanks to the quality and prices
> >> of
> >> its products instead of government largesse.
> >>
> >> Nathan
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
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> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 16, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote:
> >>
> >>> You are an economist, correct? No offense intended, but I'm
> >>> surprised
> >>> you would characterize an issue so nuanced quite so broadly. Isn't
> >>> it
> >>> quite complex, since it involves food supply and who controls what
> >>> and
> >>> how whole countries compete in the world for markets? It has nothing
> >>> to do with welfare other than the fact that governments are
> >>> involved.
> >>> Domestic sources of food are literally of biblical significance in
> >>> the
> >>> scheme of things. What actually is more fundamental? I'm quite
> >>> certain that no one would care about a small family farmer if there
> >>> weren't something distinctly chilling about corporations controlling
> >>> food supply Sorry if I'm missing something here. I'm not learned in
> >>> this area.
> >>>
> >>> Joel W.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Nathan
> >>> Wajsman<photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> Yeah, and most farmers would not survive without subsidies and
> >>>> various
> >>>> other largesse from the Federal Government, so they are effectively
> >>>> welfare recipients, just without the stigma that the welfare
> >>>> recipients in cities experience.
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