Thanks, Moose. I had no idea. It will probably be the last time I use
the quotation, although I think it probably would apply to the
modernized version of the high school I went to. Well, I suppose I
could not return there in any case, barring an out of body or out of
time experience, nor would I want to. Coming full circle, the first
time I heard it was in a class at UC Berkeley by a professor during a
class. He used it to denigrate Oakland.
Winsor
Long Beach, California, USA
On / April 19, 2008 CE, at 10:15 PM, Moose wrote:
> Staying for the moment out of the "Rockwell Debates", I must comment
> on
> your really incorrect use of Gertrude Stein's words.
>
> She grew up in Oakland from age four to about 18. After spending
> much of
> her life on the East Coast and, largely, in France, She much later
> visited the SF area and went to visit the location of the family
> home of
> her youth, only to discover that it no longer existed; upon which
> discovery she said the famous "There is no there, there."
>
> In most common use, the quote is used simply to denigrate Oakland, but
> not to pretend that she was visiting for the first time.
>
> The more sensible reading, given the more specific circumstances, is
> that what she said was meant more in the vein of "You can't go home
> again.", but she was much too much of an individual to use someone
> else's tired quote. Wikipedia has missed that little part, but it's
> readily available elsewhere on the web.
> <http://www.tenderbuttons.com/gsonline/alice.html>
>
> Moose
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