Ye, gad! So it is. Even when you told me I had to look for a bit to
find it. What it this left scroll bar stuff... an Apple thing?
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/4/2014 11:52 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
Scroll bar is on the left.
On 4 July 2014 16:15, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, I kind of figured it did something like creating a database from EXIF
data since one of the surprises was discovering that clicking on "Map"
showed me several hundred images that had GPS data from the US and UK (all
from my Samsung P&S). However, I don't know how to access the images from
that database data yet.
I had already done as you suggested "Click to the left of Folders to open
it up and you will see your PC's drives. Click on any of them to see which
directories (folders) have files in them " When I do that I see local disk
F, main folder Photos followed by my dated photo folders. Exactly as I
would have expected since that's what I told it to import. The mystery is
that that list of hundreds of folders is not scrollable. I can see exactly
16 folders all in proper date order but nothing beyond that. For the life
of me I cannot figure out how to scroll the list. Very frustrating since
scrolling of lists is a pretty well defined process on a Windows computer.
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/4/2014 9:31 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
65000 images in your library? Congratulations, and welcome to the fold
(although I sense you will be guarded in joining the fold).
I don't for a minute believe that you don't know what LR did overnight -
it
has built a relational database of your images and the EXIF data
accompanying them, and will later add to that database any keywords you
might add, as well as all the editing instructions you wish. But it's only
the database that LR tinkers with, not the image files.
Assuming that you asked LR to "Add" the imases on import, nothing will
have
moved on disk, everything is still where it was - and you can see that,
for
example, by looking in the LH panel in the Library module. See the
Catalog,
Folders, Collections tabs? Click to the left of Folders to open it up and
you will see your PC's drives. Click on any of them to see which
directories
(folders) have files in them - you may need to open up all the way down
the
tree - the number of images in each folderis listed to the right of the
folder name.
Another way, from the bottom up rather than top down, is to right click
on
any image in the Library module and select "Go to folder in Library" which
will open up the folder tree in the LH panel at the point where your image
is located. Or select "Show in Explorer" which will do just as it
suggests.
Good luck!
Piers
-----Original Message-----
From: olympus
[mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
Chuck Norcutt
Sent: 04 July 2014 14:17
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
I actually own both CS6 and LR5. In fact I've owned many versions of LR
over the years but never started one up in earnest (let it create a
library) until last night. I handed it the top level folder for my
existing
images (a by date folder structure) and let it run for 3 hours.
I really have no clue what it did except that it appears to have
created a
"collection" of some 65,000 images with no differentiation that I can see.
My original date structure seems to be inaccessible. I hope that's not
what
I have to use in the future.
Yes, I understand that there's no problem for me at the moment. I just
wish
I knew what the problem will be in the future since I'm convinced there
will
be one.
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/4/2014 5:48 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
We are talking hypothetically, about what might be to come, after you
have bought a boxed latest version of LR, but without having upgraded
PSCS6. ACR supplied with CS6 will have been superseded, and the
version supplied with LR is that newer ACR (you wouldn't have bought LR f
that wasn't the case).
It's the position I was in before I upgraded to CS6 - CS5's ACR would
not open the raw files from the camera I had, but LR would. I had to
open them in LR before doing any edits in PS - CS5 could not take
advantage of the newer ACR in LR.
But keep in mind Mike Gordon's comment that for now, Adobe are
updating the
CS6 ACR, so there isn't a problem yet.
Piers
-----Original Message-----
From: olympus
[mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chuck Norcutt
Sent: 03 July 2014 22:45
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
Is there compatibility between the versions of ACR supplied in
Lightroom and those in PhotoShop? Or would raw conversion require
operating in Lightroom first and then moving to PS?
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/3/2014 1:40 PM, Piers Hemy wrote:
Partly erroneous, Chuck. PS is no longer available as a boxed product.
LR is, and AIUI will continue to be so.
Their past practice with PS was to allow upgrades to (for example)
CS5 from
CS2,3 or 4. They discontinued that at least a year ago, so you could
upgrade to CS6 only from CS5. That limitation does not apply to LR -
any prior version is OK. And that is the "past practice" I had in
mind, although I wasn't assuming anything!
Piers
-----Original Message-----
From: olympus
[mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chuck Norcutt
Sent: 03 July 2014 16:27
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
It was my assumption (perhaps erroneous) that henceforth PS and LR or
their upgrade versions will no longer be available as something I can
buy. You
say: "If they continue their past practice with LR..." Why do you
assume that? Why would I not also assume that they will continue
their past practice with PS and I can continue as I always have?
If I'm happy with the function of PS6 and I can get a copy of the
most recent ACR by occasionally popping $75 for a Lightroom upgrade
I'd be happy and not bother with the $10/month tax.
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/3/2014 10:49 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
1 By signing up for the Creative Cloud Photography subscription,
but
you knew that. Currently $10 per month with a minimum term of one
year, and no sign of that pricegoing up, on the contrary they keep
extending the limited time offer price, and relaxing the conditions
to
qualify for it.
2 By upgrading to the latest version of Lightroom. Currently $75
at
B&H (but included with PSCC in the subscription, as you also know).
If they continue their past practice with LR, you will be able to
upgrade
LR5 to LR 6, 7 or whatever.
Both options include the latest ACR, and minor upgrades to it .
But is there something I missed in your question?
Piers
-----Original Message-----
From: olympus
[mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chuck Norcutt
Sent: 03 July 2014 13:14
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
2-3 years from now how will I be able to acquire a new version of ACR?
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/3/2014 12:54 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
If you don't use LR what might be the point, Chuck? I'd do so only
when
you need the new version of ACR.
Chris
On 3 Jul 14, at 00:09, Chuck Norcutt
<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Adobe keeps sending me reminders that I should pay the $9.99
monthly PS &
Lightroom tax. With CS6 and LR5 I already have more function than I
can use and/or learn in the next 10-20 years (my probable lifetime).
But I don't know what I'd do if Olympus delivers a full-frame
mirrorless camera 3 years from now and I don't have a version of ACR
to support it since I am an ACR junkie at this point.
What say y'all. Pay up or.... ???
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