Thanks, again, Moose. You have given me a lot of food for thought.
This camera has an electronic shutter, and I am shooting in what they term
"AE Mode", or aperture-preferred. In looking at the negatives, they all
seem to be properly exposed and of similar density, though they cover a wide
variety of subjects and lighting conditions. The negatives for "friends" and
"self-portrait" seem to be very similar.
I see what you call "grain" in the reflection of the blade, but I had not
even noticed it.
In fact, I dusted off my light box and got out my loupe, and I can find no
problem with the negatives. My judgement on the exposure compensation was
based on the images on the CD, which appear lighter than normal. So, do I
decrease the exposure, in order to get a darker CD? After all, that is what
I work from in the long term, since I gave my old scanner to my son.
You are correct, the trial version of NI supports only 8-bit files. If I
recall the sales literature, the "home" version they sell is 8-bit, while
the "Pro" version is 16-bit. The extra money might be worth it for
simplified work flow.
Anyway, I'm trying to get my arms around all this. And, I may try to locate
a source of Portra 400, which everyone seems to rave about.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A Couple of Film Images
> On 1/26/2012 3:59 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments, Moose. I got a few nice images from that roll,
>> out in the bright sunlight. Here is one, a self-portrait of me in a
>> shiny
>> prop spinner.
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Self-Portrait+02.jpg.html
>>
>> The colors on this are fine, and I see no grain or noise.
>
> There is certainly grain, look at the shadow of the blade on the chrome,
> but it doesn't cause trouble.
>
>> I have three more rolls of it, and I plan to add a little negative
>> exposure
>> compensation when I shoot the next one. With this processing lab, it
>> appears to need that.
>
> I'm not so sure. How do the negs of 'friends' and 'self portrait' compare
> in overall density? In my scans, grain is more
> prominent in less exposed areas and/or areas with no detail. if the
> 'friends' neg is thinner/lighter looking, it is
> underexposed, relatively speaking, and the higher grain/noise may be a
> result of that.
>
> That would argue for positive exposure comp. on the indoor shots. Color
> Neg film has lots of overexposure tolerance,
> less on the under side. 'Self portrait' looks not to have any clipped
> highlights other than the specular highlights on
> the chrome. You would have to go down several stops to avoid that, and
> wouldn't want to. I don't think you need any more
> than at most 1/3 stop less exposure on that shot - it's probably perfectly
> exposed if scanning were 16 bit and done right.
>
> You might try some tests in room light like that in 'friends', exposing at
> + 1/2, +1, +1 1/2 and +2 stops. You may well
> find that the auto scanning process compensates for the exposure and the
> noise goes down.
>
>> In checking online, I find that Kodak is advertising this film as the
>> greatest consumer film out there, so maybe it is just my techniques and
>> lab
>> choices. Perhaps the next roll will alter my opinion.
>>
>> I do have one more problem. I am still using the trial version of NI,
>> and
>> it is size-limited, so I can't apply that until I reduce the size, which
>> I
>> can't do until I finish with some other editing. Perhaps I need to bite
>> the
>> bullet and get the full NI program.
>
> As I recall, from some time ago, the trial version is also limited to 8
> bit. Even if the scans are 8 bit, you should be
> doing editing in 16 bit, even if you go back to 8 at the end. Does the
> trial version allow saving and using profiles?
> It's really a help to be able to save film profiles, and NR settings for
> different films and cameras/ISOs.
>
> Over Exposed Moose
>
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