John:
Lightnings came with a belly tank and over-wing drop tanks (yes!).
I also remember reading that Lightnings were not to be put into spins, due to
stresses put on the tail. I don't think it fell off, but that part of the
airframe needed to be rebuilt.
Martin
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From: JOHN DUGGAN [mailto:john.duggan10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:36 AM
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Chris, As you say a tremendous plane for its time. Limited by its fuel
consumption - A lightning with drop tanks would have been interesting... ;-O>
Am I right in believing it was the first aeroplane with the ability to
accelerate vertically?
Regards
John Duggan,
Wales, UK
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From: Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] Since we're talking about planes (actually on-topic)
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, 17 October, 2011, 5:49
Martin
I think everyone liked it; it was a tremendous machine, for its time, but very
difficult to support once longer range aircraft like the F-4 arrived. The
pilots had to be good as it was limited in its navaids, had a raw, pulse radar,
had only IR head missiles (and tail aspect ones, at that) and had a short range
(so the pilots had to be ready to work out the quickest way home).
The Vulcan remained in service long after it was obsolete; one of my main
gripes about it was the attitude of HQ 1Group. It was a very conservative HQ
with too many navigators with positions of responsibility ;-).
I don't know if it is the complexity of the Lightning that is an obstacle to
certification, but there is too much that can go wrong, jeopardising safety. I
know one of the people who have been trying to get one flying, and he started
back in the early 90s.
Chris
On 17 Oct 2011, at 00:58, Martin Walters wrote:
> What were your views on the Lightning? It has some well known
> limitations. Recently, you weren't very complimentary about one of the
> other Cold War planes (the Vulcan).
>
> As probably know, the UK aviation authorities will not let Lightnings
> fly in private hands (something about being too complex). There are, I
> believe, three flying (or flyable) in South Africa. It's also
> intriguing that the flying Hunters are all private. Not so
> sophisticated or quick, I imagine.
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