On 13/09/06, Winsor Crosby <wincros@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I don't think anyone thinks Fuji's color is natural. <actually you are
> quite right on that point> Pleasing, yes.
> But maybe the naturalness is in the post processing and Olympus knows
> how to do that. <short answer: yes> They have not sold sensors to anyone
> and provided any
> indication that they might go in that direction when their investors
> are clamoring for them to provide some kind of plan for saving the
> company. <no plans from Olympus to do this as far as I'm told from
> Shinju-ku. The Four-Thirds Group is Olympus' solution at least for now>
>
> I think the Canon iteration of the dust buster is enough different
> that they don't owe that much to Olympus and they have never sold
> their sensor.
Canon copied the basis but reinterpreted it. Can't sue them here.
Sensor sales are zero part of their income. Besides
> the Oly product might be interesting enough and with "Canon Inside",
> Canon might see that as a way to lose some sales.
Interesting.
Profit on a camera
> is probably more than profit on a sensor.
Definitely correct.
I would guess that the
> sensor will come from one of the 4/3 group that can make sensors and
> are committed to the format. That just leaves Panasonic and Kodak.
> Right?
Winsor, you're cornering me... :)
If they go outside the 4/3 group I doubt Sony would be
> interested in doing a low production 4/3 format chip for them.
No. Olympus definitely has no more plans to work with Sony now and forever
except in digital compacts only. The battlelines are now drawn firm. The
A-100 confirmed that.
Who
> does that leave? Dalsa and Fill Factory?
Of the two, there is one in prototype format for E-3 but in my opinion (only
MY opinion), it won't make it.
Then again perhaps Oly will just learn what Canon and Fuji know about
> post processing in the raw format and apply it to whatever they use.
No comments on this.
I saw converted high ISO raw image without any other processing from
> a Fuji E800 and it was really, really ugly.
That is not the CCD we were looking at.
Nikon has used
> essentially the same 6MP sensor from the D100 through the D50 and the
> jpg noise characteristics improved on each camera so that the D50 is
> the same or a little better than most of the Canons. They learn along
> the way.
>
>
> Winsor
> Long Beach, CA
> USA
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:44 AM, AG Schnozz wrote:
>
> >> sensor. None of them have a Kodak sensor. There are surprises
> >> in there. I hope they make the right choice; the one I have
> >> in mind because that sensor will produce absolutely stunning
> >> natural colours.
> >
> > Ok, the "stunning natural colours" would be a characteristic of
> > a Kodak or Dalsa sensor, but it seems apparant that the Kodak
> > connection is DEAD DEAD DEAD! So, who else has "stunning
> > natural colours"? Fuji. Hmmm. That'd be nice. I could live
> > with that. Give me another three-stops of dynamic range too? :)
> >
> > But I'm going to speculate for a second and get my own almonds
> > in a vice and say that it could be a Canon CMOS sensor. Why do
> > I say that? I'm making a guess that there was a "technology
> > trade agreement" with the dust-shaker. It seems unlikely,
> > though, as Canon generally "goes it alone" with everything
> > they've done in the photographic world. A Canon CMOS sensor
> > would take care of any arguments against 4/3 as being "noisy".
> >
> > But, in the end, it wouldn't suprise me if they bought some
> > oddball sensor from "Wang's House of Overruns and Sweepers".
> >
> > AG
> >
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