Come to southern NY, and see :) If you're going just south of the canadian
border, you won't find much difference from the rest of the US. Also, try soft
hot pretzels like you get at baseball games here in the US. Its the same dough
as the Montreal bagels, so people won't relate to them here the same way.
Also, the "falsifications" from MacDonalds are what many assume are what bagels
are. They just don't have another point of reference, so decide they don't like
bagels period. So at least we agree on that point. :)
Larry
José Adolfo Segura md wrote:
> Larry..the history says that the original bagels come from Montreal...I
> do'nt like the "varieties" of N York...worse are the falsification's from
> the MacDonalds..
>
> José
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> From: "Larry" <halpert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) OT not coffee or SUVs. - Bagels :-)>
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> > There's a big difference in quality of bagels especially in the US. In
> trying them
> > across the country, most of them are similar to packaged bagels such as
> Lenders.
> > Chewy & bland. None of them approach the bagels in NY and a few places in
> LI - a
> > couple written up by the NY Times for some odd reason such as Stuff N'
> Bagels, &
> > Bagel Boss. And it seems if you use the same technique elsewhere, they
> just don't
> > compare. Some have said its the water (Same phenomenon as NY pizza outside
> of NY -
> > its as horribly lousy as Dominoes). If they're not hand tossed, they
> don't even
> > count. (most are made by a bagel machine, even if "boiled" every day.)
> >
> > The oddest I've had were in Montreal in the Orthodox Jewish section. Two
> places
> > were supposed to have "the best bagels in canada". There were only a
> couple of
> > versions (NY places have about 20 varieties (Poppy, Sesame, Pumpernickel,
> Onion,
> > Egg/Onion, etc)
> > and they tasted exactly like the hot pretzels you get from a vendor.
> NOTHING like
> > a bagel.
> >
> > So, like someone here said, most are not that good, but in a good NY
> place, they
> > are amazing and uncomparable.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > Brian Swale wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks
> > >
> > > During the last couple of years, a new phenomenon has hit the New
> Zealand
> > > market-place.
> > >
> > > Bagels.
> > >
> > > I've seen street-side signs saying "Bagels freshly boiled today" and
> others.
> > >
> > > So this week I thought I'd try a packet of them. And I am totally
> baffled
> > > about their apparent popularity elsewhere in the world.
> > >
> > > I wonder what people do to make them edible.
> > >
> > > To me they are a moderately boring version of the old doughnut (also
> totally
> > > boring) and rather tough and excessively chewy as well. ( OK, my teeth
> are
> > > not up to hard work like they used to be).
> > >
> > > What do people ( 'murricans in particular ;-> ) do to them prior to
> inserting
> > > them in their mouths? What is the attraction?
> > >
> > > A curious and baffled mind would like to know.
> > >
> > > Brian (feeling rather curmudgeonly about bagels - and BTW, where's our
> > > resident curmudgeon these days?)
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