Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:51:52 -0800
From: "Dave Dougherty" <davdou@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re- Defection etc.
Here is a link to a photo I made yesterday with a digital camera. I think
it glows pretty good. -:) Also I would say that if you are using an E-10/20
there is no significant lag time between pressing the shutter and the shot
being recorded. In low light you need to take into account that it takes a
moment for the auto focus to work. But, if you pre focus which the camera
will do, when you press the shutter it takes the shot instantly. How is
this different from manually focusing and OM with, say an 85/2 on it? Ask
Mike Veglia if one can take decisive moment photos. I think he will support
me in this.
Dave Dougherty
I think you and Mike V. are right. There's been a lot of bashing of
digitals cameras on this list the last day or so, but I think it's
ill-founded. They are an extension of the photographic tools to our
arsenal. Like all photographic tools, ANY of the cameras that I
shoot with, be it OM series, point and shoots, or digital, have their
benefits and shortcomings. The challenge in becoming a better
photographer is to make use of their strengths and learn to attenuate
and work with, and even take advantage of, their weaknesses. I for
one look at taking a particular camera, e.g. my late-lameted, but
much-loved C4040Z, or my Contax T3, or my Yashica T4, or my cool
little Canonet GIII rangefinder, and getting something out of it as
much as a challenge as any of my OM stuff. I like the variety of
shooting and using them.
l love my Oly OM stuff, but I'm not chauvanistic about it. If I had a
Canon D60 or Nikon D100 with some fast and long prime autofocus
lenses, you can bet your sweet derriere I'd use them. Yes, it's
gratifying to get a great tracking shot of some Indy car going
smokin' into 5 at Laguna at a buck fifty sharp from end to end with
an OM-1 and a long, manual focus lens. But the bottom line is, after
19 years of motorsports photography using manual cameras and lenses
and slow films, I already know how to do that, thank you very much.
And the aforementioned digitals would just increase my "keeper rate"
even more, and I'd have even more sharp, focussed shots than I do
now, increasing the likelihood I could get them sold and published,
and perhaps even getting enough credentials so as to get track photo
access, which would provide even better results than I can now get
shooting over the chain link. Most all the mags now are shooting
digital exclusively, and having those tools available as well as all
the OM stuff would likely increase my chances of success as a
motorsports photographer, not diminish it. I'd be foolish not to take
advantage of these "enabling tools" if available.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:03:02 -0800
From: Mike Veglia <msvphoto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] not defecting but supplementing
A non-photographer friend (but a technolgy junky) wanted a small compact
digital P&S and the C-4040 was what I suggested. He absolutely loves it. I'm
not too fond of the user interface (I never could figure out how to shoot it
in manual mode for example--and I didn't have time to RTFM) but he loves it
and it gets great results.
So far my friend who bought a C-4040 is amazed at the results (it replaced a
very costly Leica P&S film camera he bought in Germany--which I am pretty
sure was no better than a Stylus Epic, but oh well, it's his money).
Yes, I'm sure he's very happy with it. I think that was an excellent
suggestion on your part. I think the C-4040Z is a terrific digital
camera, and I sure miss mine. :-( The image quality I got from it was
very impressive; I got great results with it, too. And prints I made
with it looked stunning. The user interface is pretty
straightforward once you have a little time to play with it. It's
much better than the earlier C-series cameras in this regard.
All in all a superb camera...it always got great reviews from the
publications I've seen as well. Anyone who wants to see what it can
do should do a search on the Yahoo groups for C4040Z and look for the
stuff Alfred Molon does with it. You'd be very impressed. For
example, check this out:
http://www.asiagalleries.de/Contest/imagehtm/image7.htm
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:22:39 +1100
From: VS <VS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] Re- Defection etc.
<snip>
Anyway, I'd still say that the lag of a modern digital camera will be
bigger than is the case with an film RF camera.
Actually, the E10/E20 has shutter lag is that amongst the shortest of
ANY camera on the market, either film or digital...a mere 58
milliseconds.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Lawrence" <mlawrence@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [OM] taken from the Maitani site....
<snip>
They're just tools, and we need to recognise their imperfections
and perfections *for our own use* and use them accordingly
or within those imperfections and individual situations where
perhaps those imperfections cease to matter or become reduced
to insignificance. Does it matter if someone shot 500 photos
to get one startlingly beautiful one (whether digital or not)?
Aren't we here for the results?
<snip>
Of course, in Adam's case, there was a whole other range of
differences other than film-digital. He was going from an OM10
of a while ago, to the latest photographic technology in
equipment (and all those buttons and functions and AF :-) ). I'm
sure there were some major differences there too (both good
and bad in his eyes).
Cheers
Marc
Sydney, Oz
Well-said, couldn't agree more.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:45:45 -0800
From: Winsor Crosby <wincros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] not defecting but supplementing
>
>So far my friend who bought a C-4040 is amazed at the results (it replaced a
very costly Leica P&S film camera he bought in Germany--which I am pretty
sure was no better than a Stylus Epic, but oh well, it's his money).
Mike Veglia
Motor Sport Visions Photography
http://www.motorsportvisions.com
Then again the C-4040 is no better than a Stylus Epic.
Sorry, but I don't agree...the C4040Z is much more versatile.....and
offers much greater degree of photographic control, and would deliver
prints just as large and with as good a quality as you'd likely be to
print from a Stylus Epic.
-Stephen.
--
2001 CBR600F4i - Fantastic!
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