Tim,
In one of the posts you mentioned a 65-200 zoom. That
was for a Nikon right? Have you tried the Oly 65-200?
I've got one and have taken a fair number of pics with
it. Haven't really stressed tested the results with
blowups. I find it a bit moosey; I feel like someone
is sitting on the end of the barrel all the time. My
favorite(but not ideal) combo is the 35-105 and the
200 f4(I'd like to get an f5 200--I hear it is a best
kept secret) The 200 f4 oly is quite something in my
book.
Andre
--- Tim Chakravorty <suchismit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think the war has already begun :-)
>
> >One question about the Nikon. Can the Nikon tell
> you
> >the difference in f stops in reflectance between
> two
> >individuals with different complexions? Can it tell
> >you the difference in f-stops between the left and
> >right sides of a face when there is side lighting?
>
>
> Actually yes it can, but maybe not as conveniently
> as the OM-4. In manual mode with exposure mode
> set to spot, the N80 displays a horizontal bar
> graph in 1/2 f stops which is very similar to the
> OM-4's.
>
> Again, I am not making a blanket statement saying
> one is better than the other, they have their
> own merits. But when it comes to getting a quick
> grab shot of say a person walking down the street,
> a
> modern autofocus SLR set in matrix/evaluative mode
> is extremely handy. And in the majority
> of cases the exposure is more than adequate.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre Goforth" <andregoanon@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-4Ti
>
>
> > I find the very opposite. I find the OM 4T ideal
> for
> > people photography. There is a reference in Ivar
> > Matanle's "Collecting and Using Classic SLRs to
> > Olympus SLRs that they were the mainstay of the
> > "fashion" crowd. He is referring to fashion and
> > journalistic photogs of the late 60s, 70s,80s.
> (Wasn't
> > the photographer in the movie Blowup using an
> > Olympus?)
> >
> > I find the accumlative spot metering and exposure
> > memory to be invaluable in interactive people
> oriented
> > shooting where they may change outfits and/or move
> > from one setting to another (light to dark).
> >
> > It has taken lots of practice. I can change
> > lens,winders replace film and etc. in the dark. I
> can
> > reach in to my bag and pull out the lens I want
> > without ever looking at them and get the one I
> want.
> > This is something any
> serious/professional/whatever
> > photog will know regardless of the brand or format
> > they are working with.
> >
> > With all due respect, I believe such facility with
> any
> > brand gear has to be diligently acquired. Maybe
> you
> > haven't taken the time to do this with 4Ts.(Nikon
> is a
> > great system and if it works better for you then
> more
> > power to you!)
> >
> > The 4T metering may be used to manage the very
> sticky
> > situation of photoing group photos of mixed
> > ethnicities. Concern a pale pink caucasian in dark
> > clothes and a very dark south Indian(from Kerla
> for
> > example) in light clothes and then a couple of
> > olive/yellow skinned Asians in a menagerie of
> colored
> > clothes at the beach(San Digeo Ca) around noon
> time in
> > the spring and the fog has burned off but it is
> partly
> > cloudy.
> >
> > There is more than one way to solve this with the
> 4Ts
> > metering. Any suggestions from the list to show
> Tim
> > the possibilities?
> >
> > One question about the Nikon. Can the Nikon tell
> you
> > the difference in f stops in reflectance between
> two
> > individuals with different complexions? Can it
> tell
> > you the difference in f-stops between the left and
> > right sides of a face when there is side lighting?
> >
> > Andre
> > --- Tim Chakravorty <suchismit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > The OM-4/Ti is a great camera, but from my
> > > experience its usefulness is mostly limited to
> > > nature
> > > photography where you have ample time to analyze
> a
> > > scene, mount it on a tripod, set exposure and
> > > shoot. Passion runs high among the list members
> for
> > > this camera and for good reason. Its metering
> > > scheme unrivaled in *any* camera is basically
> an
> > > implementation of the zone system. I know
> > > people who are so in love with their Nikons
> becuse
> > > of the 'spectacular' matrix metering..but they
> don't
> > >
> > > know the first thing about exposure. "I just set
> my
> > > N70 to matrix and fire away" If only you heard
> some
> > > the things he said about spot metering.... you
> would
> > > be ROFL ! Matrix metering will not teach you
> > > anything about exposure. Its for people who want
> > > acceptable pictures without a fuss.
> > >
> > >
> > > One thing I have rarely heard people suggest is
> to
> > > raise two families of camera systems, as long as
> > > they
> > > complement each other. For me Olympus is the
> > > primary system for focal lengths below 100mm,
> > > including
> > > macros. And going out on a limb here, I am
> afraid to
> > > say that the Zuiko family had no quality zooms
> in
> > > the
> > > 70-200 range. So I decided to start a new family
>
> > > with a Nikon N80(gifted to me), and the
> absolutely
> > > fabulous Nikkor 80-200/2.8ED. Sorry Zuikheads,
> but
> > > the Zuiko 85-250/5 is *nowhere* near the Nikkor
> > > 80-200/2.8, resolution or contrast. (I know
> this is
> > > blasphemy and I can see war breaking out.. :-) )
>
> > > The quality long lenses from Olympus ( 180/2,
> 250/2,
> > > 350/2) are very expensive and I truly don't
> see
> > > the
> > > rationale behind their cost. (Perhaps because
> they
> > > are old designs and manual focus ?) So for me
> the
> > > Nikon
> > > family will grow with the long lenses , maybe a
> > > 300/4 AF-S sometime in the future, while I will
> > > happily
> > > keep the shorter ones from Olympus.
> > >
> > > What does this mean for you ? If you want to be
> an
> > > expert nature photographer get an Om-4/Ti by all
> > > means. It just doesn't get any better than that.
> But
> > > if you want to pursue photojournalistic type of
> > > subjects,
> > > such as closeup grab shots of people , or even
> > > serious wildlife - forget Olympus. You will
> spend an
> > > eternity focusing and fumbling with the spot
> meter.
> > > So you might consider buying into another
> system,
> > > not necessarily by getting rid of what you have.
> > >
> > > Life is short. Taste the best of everything .
> > >
> > > -Tim
> > >
> > > > >I'm wondering on the intelligence of
> investing in
> > > an Om4-Ti. It's a
> > > > >dead system... But I would like spot
> metering on
> > > my Om1n, and I'm
>
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