I think the war has already begun :-)
>One question about the Nikon. Can the Nikon tell you
>the difference in f stops in reflectance between two
>individuals with different complexions? Can it tell
>you the difference in f-stops between the left and
>right sides of a face when there is side lighting?
Actually yes it can, but maybe not as conveniently as the OM-4. In manual mode
with exposure mode
set to spot, the N80 displays a horizontal bar graph in 1/2 f stops which is
very similar to the OM-4's.
Again, I am not making a blanket statement saying one is better than the other,
they have their
own merits. But when it comes to getting a quick grab shot of say a person
walking down the street, a
modern autofocus SLR set in matrix/evaluative mode is extremely handy. And in
the majority
of cases the exposure is more than adequate.
-Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Goforth" <andregoanon@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] OM-4Ti
> I find the very opposite. I find the OM 4T ideal for
> people photography. There is a reference in Ivar
> Matanle's "Collecting and Using Classic SLRs to
> Olympus SLRs that they were the mainstay of the
> "fashion" crowd. He is referring to fashion and
> journalistic photogs of the late 60s, 70s,80s. (Wasn't
> the photographer in the movie Blowup using an
> Olympus?)
>
> I find the accumlative spot metering and exposure
> memory to be invaluable in interactive people oriented
> shooting where they may change outfits and/or move
> from one setting to another (light to dark).
>
> It has taken lots of practice. I can change
> lens,winders replace film and etc. in the dark. I can
> reach in to my bag and pull out the lens I want
> without ever looking at them and get the one I want.
> This is something any serious/professional/whatever
> photog will know regardless of the brand or format
> they are working with.
>
> With all due respect, I believe such facility with any
> brand gear has to be diligently acquired. Maybe you
> haven't taken the time to do this with 4Ts.(Nikon is a
> great system and if it works better for you then more
> power to you!)
>
> The 4T metering may be used to manage the very sticky
> situation of photoing group photos of mixed
> ethnicities. Concern a pale pink caucasian in dark
> clothes and a very dark south Indian(from Kerla for
> example) in light clothes and then a couple of
> olive/yellow skinned Asians in a menagerie of colored
> clothes at the beach(San Digeo Ca) around noon time in
> the spring and the fog has burned off but it is partly
> cloudy.
>
> There is more than one way to solve this with the 4Ts
> metering. Any suggestions from the list to show Tim
> the possibilities?
>
> One question about the Nikon. Can the Nikon tell you
> the difference in f stops in reflectance between two
> individuals with different complexions? Can it tell
> you the difference in f-stops between the left and
> right sides of a face when there is side lighting?
>
> Andre
> --- Tim Chakravorty <suchismit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The OM-4/Ti is a great camera, but from my
> > experience its usefulness is mostly limited to
> > nature
> > photography where you have ample time to analyze a
> > scene, mount it on a tripod, set exposure and
> > shoot. Passion runs high among the list members for
> > this camera and for good reason. Its metering
> > scheme unrivaled in *any* camera is basically an
> > implementation of the zone system. I know
> > people who are so in love with their Nikons becuse
> > of the 'spectacular' matrix metering..but they don't
> >
> > know the first thing about exposure. "I just set my
> > N70 to matrix and fire away" If only you heard some
> > the things he said about spot metering.... you would
> > be ROFL ! Matrix metering will not teach you
> > anything about exposure. Its for people who want
> > acceptable pictures without a fuss.
> >
> >
> > One thing I have rarely heard people suggest is to
> > raise two families of camera systems, as long as
> > they
> > complement each other. For me Olympus is the
> > primary system for focal lengths below 100mm,
> > including
> > macros. And going out on a limb here, I am afraid to
> > say that the Zuiko family had no quality zooms in
> > the
> > 70-200 range. So I decided to start a new family
> > with a Nikon N80(gifted to me), and the absolutely
> > fabulous Nikkor 80-200/2.8ED. Sorry Zuikheads, but
> > the Zuiko 85-250/5 is *nowhere* near the Nikkor
> > 80-200/2.8, resolution or contrast. (I know this is
> > blasphemy and I can see war breaking out.. :-) )
> > The quality long lenses from Olympus ( 180/2, 250/2,
> > 350/2) are very expensive and I truly don't see
> > the
> > rationale behind their cost. (Perhaps because they
> > are old designs and manual focus ?) So for me the
> > Nikon
> > family will grow with the long lenses , maybe a
> > 300/4 AF-S sometime in the future, while I will
> > happily
> > keep the shorter ones from Olympus.
> >
> > What does this mean for you ? If you want to be an
> > expert nature photographer get an Om-4/Ti by all
> > means. It just doesn't get any better than that. But
> > if you want to pursue photojournalistic type of
> > subjects,
> > such as closeup grab shots of people , or even
> > serious wildlife - forget Olympus. You will spend an
> > eternity focusing and fumbling with the spot meter.
> > So you might consider buying into another system,
> > not necessarily by getting rid of what you have.
> >
> > Life is short. Taste the best of everything .
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > > >I'm wondering on the intelligence of investing in
> > an Om4-Ti. It's a
> > > >dead system... But I would like spot metering on
> > my Om1n, and I'm
> > > >wondering if another brand wouldn't yield me a
> > better buy? I
> > > >currently have 3 lenses... and that seems to be
> > the leverage in
> > > >investment, but for an OM4Ti, I can buy quite a
> > bit of another
> > > >brand..Or go digital SLR..
> > > >
> > > >What do you all think?
> > > >Albert
> > >
> >
> >
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