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Re: [OM] OT Philosophy (was) OM4Ti Failure

Subject: Re: [OM] OT Philosophy (was) OM4Ti Failure
From: Tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:38:36 -0500
On Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 10:49, andrew fildes 
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wrote re "Re: [OM] OT Philosophy (was) OM4Ti Failure" saying:

> >I might agree with you AndrewF if I were sure that you existed to agree
> >with.
> 
> If a shutter fires in the forest......
> 
> >Perhaps I need my camera to get a photo to be certain of existence
> >outside my *immediate* experience - what I can see, hear or smell
> >now.  Getting a photo a part of the world that I was not looking at
> >at the time proves that that part of the world existed when I was not
> >experiencing it.

And how do you view the image? - using the same sensory organs that you 
used in the first place.  But now others who weren't present can see it. 

This is a very democratic existentialism: Others vote, therefore I am.
 
> Unfortunately, the photograph/image is also part of that exterior world.
> Your senses are equally deceived by the representation as by the 'reality.'
> I recommend an early Russell Crowe movie - 'Proof' - as an exploration of
> the use of photography to establish a reality and trust in others.

Or Blow-up as a counterbalance

> >The trouble with cameras without a mirror is that you are never not
> >experiencing the scene, so you are never sure that it would have been
> >there if you had not been seeing it ...

You could always blink.
 
> Depends on whether you see time as strictly linear or a progression of
> infinitely small moments. Good luck with that one!

Quantum time?

tOM (bicyclist)
 
> >[Will that do as a counterpoint to Shumano, Suntour and Ni-Cd old chap?]
> >:>) Chris
> 
> A good start.
> AndrewF
> (ex-cycle salesperson)

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