Tomoko,
I use Eudora Lite for EMail. It is free. It has no trouble interpreting
Andy's or anyone else's messages as normal text. Maybe it is the
limitation of your software?
Winsor
>If you use Microsoft Outlook Express or some other e-mail client capable of
>sending your e-mail in html or rich text format, please look at this
>carefully. The result of such formatting in the digest form is what I am
>quoting.
>
>Please look at what I have quoted below:
>
>Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:49:32 +1000
>From: "Wiese" <wiese@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [OM] Velvia speed
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>[The following is not a particular shot at anybody
>
>After BIG SNIPS, the end of his post looks like:
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><DIV>[The following is not a particular shot at anybody...]</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3>IMHO, it seems to me the way =
>to go,=20
>especially in difficult situations such as high contrast lighting, is =
>just to=20
>bracket more. If an individual finds they prefer their shots =
>consistently=20
>exposed over or under the given speed, then rate it differently, by all=20
>means. (I generally rate Kodak slide film at 1/3 of a stop faster =
>than that=20
>recommended). Taking advice is of course normal, but blindly =
>following=20
>another photographer's experiences with a different camera under =
>different=20
>conditions would seem strange I'm also about to try Velvia for the =
>first=20
>time, and I'll be starting out with the ISO set at 50, bracket heavily =
>(as for=20
>any film I'm using for the first time), take notes, and make my decision =
>from=20
>there.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV>Cheers</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Andy</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>P.S. Ken, do you prefer the results you get in prints using=20
>internegs? Any reason you don't use Ilfochrome?</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>P.P.S. To anyone wondering, "fair dinkum" =
>(mentioned in=20
>another thread) is Australian for 'genuine', 'for real', etc ;-)</DIV>
><DIV><BR>------------------------------Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:48:09=20
>- -0500</DIV>
><DIV>From: "Ken Norton" <<A=20
>href=3D"http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/cframes/compose?disk=3D207.82.250.1=
>48_d36&login=3Daw_oly&f=3D1024&curmbox=3DACTIVE&mailto=3D1&to=3Dimage66@i=
>bm.net&msg=3DMSG900134980.5&start=3D188968&len=3D60602&src=3D&type=3Dx"=20
>target=3D_top>image66@xxxxxxx</A>>Subject: Re: [OM] Velvia =
>speed?</DIV>
><DIV>>I'm about <BR>to try Velvia for the first time, but am confused =
>by the=20
>speed</DIV>
><DIV>>ratings I've <BR>heard being used. I know Fuji rates it at ISO =
>50. Yet=20
>I'veseen</DIV>
><DIV>>mention in <BR>several discussions, magazines, etc that it is =
>often=20
>shot at ISO>40</DIV>
><DIV>>or <BR>even 32, which seems to go against wisdom that slide =
>film should=20
>not be<BR>>overexposed. Is there something special about Velvia as =
>opposed to=20
>regular<BR>>slide film?</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Velvia and Microsoft Windows have become popular "whipping=20
><BR>boys" lately. It has become quite fashionable to gripe =
>about=20
>velvia being a <BR>"disneychrome"and what horrible things it =
>does to=20
>skin tones, etc.I <BR>reluctantly switched from Fuji 50D, which I =
>carefully=20
>aged, to Velvia because of <BR>availability problems. Honestly, I =
>could=20
>get super-saturationwith the 50D yet <BR>retain more shadow =
>detail. The=20
>Velvia was sharper thoughand had less apparent <BR>grain. If you want=20
>eye-popping color and plan on making enlargements for<BR>art-prints, =
>etc., I=20
>would recommend the Velvia being shot right at ISO 50.The <BR>color =
>saturation=20
>pays off once the interneg is blown up to 16x20 orposter sized =
><BR>prints.Until=20
>recently, I typically shot the Velvia at 40 or even 32, but=20
>have<BR>"rediscovered" the joys of the saturation possible at=20
>50. It comes <BR>down to one fact though--shadow detail. =
>Expose for=20
>the shadows! If you are out <BR>in Sunny-16 conditions, you will =
>want to=20
>overexpose by 1/3 or 2/3 of a stop asthe <BR>shadows will block up on =
>you. =20
>Anytime you are not shooting direct sunlight with <BR>extremes in =
>exposure=20
>values, I'd say glue the ISO dial to the 50 position.</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>As always YMMV.</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Ken N.</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>If you don't like anyone to wade through this gibberish above, please set
>your e-mail client to text format when responding to the Olympus list or any
>other mailing lists you subscribe. I normally skip such a post like above
>without reading. I just happen to have chosen Andy Wiese's post because his
>was at the end of the digest, but he is not the only one who posts to the
>list in the html format!
>
>The other problem I see in the digest form is any attachments you might send
>to the list. Any attachments posted to the list will become pages and pages
>of worse gibberish. It is really awful. On the other mailing list in
>digest I subscribe, it has been a problem.
>
>If you want to double check how your post looks like in the digest form,
>please go to the Shawn Wright's site for daily digest archives.
>
>Tomoko Yamamoto
>Photographer, Composer, Soprano
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