> From: Bill Pearce <billpearce@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> In no way does anything artistic come from a machine.
Then chainsaw sculpture isn't art? It's from a "machine."
How about this, is it "art?" All done by machine.
https://tinyurl.com/Rushmore-Borglum
In this case, it was done by thousands of men with dynamite and jack hammers.
Are they not "machines" of a sort? True, they had an overall blueprint they
were following that was dictated by Borglum, but you don't think any of the
individual "machines" thought, "Hmm, a little bit deeper here will show more
afternoon shadow detail?" Don't you think that, after that job, they each
considered themselves "artists" in some way?
Is not a "Photoshop action" in many ways, "the works of a machine?" Shouldn't
you be using a hex editor on the individual bytes in the TIFF file, instead?
These things are all just tools. I'm willing to say that someone who uses
Photoshop filters is somewhat less of an artist than someone who manages to
achieve the same effect using pigment and brushes, just as an "adorned" Kincaid
print is less of art than a Bateman original. But aren't they both still "art?"
Where do you draw the line?
(Well, I think it's clear where *you* "draw the line," Bill, but can you
appreciate the opposing point-of-view that says it's all a continuum, and that
directing an algorithm to achieve a desired effect is not that much different
from directing a bunch of guys with jack hammers to remove all the rock that
doesn't look "presidential." :-)
Jan
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