I was a ravel zoom guy, with the 28-48 on the OM.
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From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:18:28 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] 12-200
On 6/20/2019 4:54 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
> <<<Yup, 12-60 isn't a long as 12-100. And occasionally, but not too often, I
> miss that coverage. OTOH, it's optically as good, so don't give anything away
> there.
I guess I should have said that, with 20 MP, cropping is seldom a problem.
> I am skeptical about the long end of the 12-200.
As you should be. You aren't a travel zoom kind of guy. ;-)
> It has weather sealing but I wonder if you can put it under a deluge like the
> 12-100.
I'll have to say, I wished I'd had a weather sealed body to go with the lens
when we walked around Zion in the rain.
> The sync IS with 12-100 is just remarkable!!
Well the 12-60, in fact, all my Panny zooms, but the 7-14, have Panny's
version, Dual-IS. Even the 42.5/1.7 has it. I
don't know of any comparison of dual/sync OIS and IBIS systems. Not sure how
one would go about making a good
comparison, with so many FLs and shutter speeds, and the variation in human
unsteadiness over the tests and between people.
> Even at F4 the lack of subject isolation ability of the 12-100 can be a pain
> though.
A point in favor of the faster 12-60 at the short end. It's a full stop faster
@ 12 mm, narrowing down to nothing @
about 40 mm.
> It is a tad sharper than the PL 12-60 at the long end as I recall.
No argument here; it's almost infinitely better at 100 mm than the 12-60. :-D
As to 60 vs 60 mm, I just don't recall. I
probably have the comparisons, shot in HR, but they are in practice, both
excellent. In the field, with all the other
factors, I think it's a toss-up. I've certainly got some great C-U photos,
including those with achromat C-U lens and
focus stacks. For the vast majority of nature close-up/macros, the corners
don't matter a whit.
> Here is a Marnie shot from Bhutan with the 12-100:
>
>
> https://www.olyendomike.com/Bhutan-Bangkok-2017/i-GR6KSgG/A
Hey! That's my lens! Excellent photo!
> I had to use a Moose processing procedure to improve the bokeh. Marnie wants
> the reach.
Makes perfect sense I would, too, if I didn't also carry the PLeica 100-400.
She should be very happy, going from a 1745
g. monster camera/lens to an 1135 g. combo with twice the reach.
> Moose's point about the macro ability of the 12-60 is well taken and it is
> clearly massively better at this from samples I've seen
Just for fun, here's a stack taken Sunday, 12-60, Nikon 5T C-U lens, of a
fleabane flower going to seed.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/6BcWVaFqxpGYc62o6>
> with the 12-20 and I know first hand with the 12-100. The 12-100 did not like
> my Pentax achromatic diopter but may like the new
> Siggie one Moose found. The PL is smaller and a better hiking lens but I
> don't think nearly as weather proof.
Sure wasn't bothered by the rain in Zion.
> I think it has dual IS with Panny bodies.
Indeed, as above.
> They each have their place, but not sold on the 12-200.
I'd be far more interested if it had OIS. I've had a lot of fun, and good
results, with GM5 and Panny 14-140. I just
discovered I had another gallery of photos from that combo.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/68UNhScFh8a2WHeG7>
There are a couple of big crops of people shots. I notice now some artifacts in
one that should be reprocessed in the
latest DxO, but there's otherwise nothing to complain about.
Where's the Panny 12-20, with OIS?
Mixed Up Moose
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