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Subject: Re: [OM] Flying high
From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 01:15:58 -0500
Finally! Somebody can get past the right wing 'It's the law and that's all" attitude, and recognizes the utter corporate incompetence that allows things like this to happen. They didn't know about the four crew members until just before the departure?

And I can see how this could be an extension of the sea captain thing, but it was widely reported that the law gave broad powers to every crew member.

-----Original Message----- From: ChrisB
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 12:13 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] Flying high

I don’t suppose that the law was passed for the airline’s “comfort”, Bill, but it’s the law of the sea and of the air that the captain of the vessel retain complete command.

For my part, whatever the legal rights or wrongs, it was ludicrous that United Airlines allowed everyone on the flight before deciding that 4 crew had to be accommodated, then to go to the lengths of asking security to take over. The airline’s management deserve every bit of bad publicity that resulted: whether or not they were in the right, going to the point of manhandling a passenger sitting peacefully in his seat meant that the local management had failed dismally.

It strikes me that United Airlines was very close to the point that the monetary offer to passengers to give up seats was equal to the fares that the 4 crew would have had to pay to get to their destination.

Chris



On 20 Apr 17, at 19:28, Bill Pearce <billcpearce@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I must say that I cannot defend the airline for using a law that was clearly designed for their comfort, with no benefit to the general flying public. Our government tends to pass boatloads of laws that benefit only their benefactors. It may be time to consider we should cut out the middleman and just recognise what is going on and eliminate general elections and just let legislators be selected by large corporations.

-----Original Message----- From: Ken Norton
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:20 PM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] Flying high

One must question the law there. It's a part of our former fascist president and his government that was an over the top and ineffectual response to the 9-11 situation that only served to energize Fox news viewers. It probably should be rewritten, but I doubt there is anyone in Congress who's up to the
job.

Some of the laws governing this specific area of carriage would pretty
much predate 9/11 by a few centuries and predate air-travel itself. I
don't think you can blame Bush/Fox for that. Besides, I'd like to see
anybody on any airplane in any country get away with refusing to
comply with direct orders from the crew and getting away with it. The
moment you cross the threshold and enter an aircraft or board a boat,
the captain owns your a&&.

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