Le 29 juin 2016 à 20:19, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
Ian ..... left unsaid so far on this forum has been any expression of potential
future events should the UK have voted to have remained in the EU. For
instance, is a not a long shot at all to surmise that within the next ten years
the following would have occurred or be in active process of completion:
1 Abandonment of the Pound and adoption of the Euro with little say by the UK
2 Banking union
3 Integration of the UK taxation system into an EU wide tax code
4 Complete subservience of the UK judicial system to the EU Court of Justice
5 Oversight of the UK budget preparation process and submission to Parliament
along with EU rights to reject or amend same without any right of appeal
6 Ultimate control of the NHS and other welfare facilities by the EU
7 Loss of control of the UK's armed forces in favour of the EU
8. Complete oversight of UK foreign policy by the EU with mandatory directives
from the EU to alter course where it saw fit.
9 Change over from driving on the left to the right
10. Abandonment of gasolene and diesel powered vehicles a la Norway in favour
of electric and pedal powered vehicles.
Sounds funny .......... I really do not think so. Perhaps there was a lot of
other good reasons to vote to get off the bus other than wanting to take
control of the borders.
jh
Well, well, well …
Let me think.
1) Pure fantasy - the Euro is optional in the EU. Opt in, opt out, whatever.
2) Definitely not within a 10 years timespan, and even if … BTW: Do Jersey and
Guernsey still want to become blacklisted?
3) Probably not with the current system that requires unanimous decisions. Even VAT
is incredibly intricate and different from one country to another. The Germans would
oppose that for instance as their VAT also funds Länder, read local
authorities, etc.
4) Doesn't deal with criminal matters in the first place, Farage and Johnson
can breathe, for a while. For the rest, most decisions of the ECJ favour
liberalism more than anything else.
5) Not very likely - out of the power of the EU as it is, notably "amend".
6) If so, it would probably for the better for the understaffed, underfunded Service
and for ill taken care of citizen… (get back to the Beveridge report (1942) and
see how generous the British were, then.
7) Under NATO yes! Within shared power in the EU if? Very unlikely, think of
the Germans and their Constitution.
8) Catherine Ashton was the Foreign Commissioner and was highly praised on her
achievements (irony in there). In any case, a body of countries is certainly
stronger than an isolated one.
9) Exactly, let's try on the first day with the lorries, and cars on the next
day. Survivors will enjoy a free road on the third. Why should the EU want to
change that? Ludicrous.
10) And so what? Good for the lungs, the heart and coronation streets.
You may read too much of the ill informed media John I'm sorry.
Get into the details of how decisions are made at the EU level and you'll see
that none, not one, of your conjectures passes the test of reality within those
10 years.
Now, the game has changed, and one opponent to the European idea(l) has left,
things might get faster.
Amities
Philippe