You live in a different world from me.
http://kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/poverty-among-seniors-an-updated-analysis-of-national-and-state-level-poverty-rates-under-the-official-and-supplemental-poverty-measures/
This analysis presents national and state-level poverty rates among people
ages 65 and older, based on two measures from the U.S. Census Bureau, using
data from the 2014 Current Population Survey (CPS) and pooled 2012-2014 CPS
for state-level data: the official poverty measure and the Supplemental
Poverty Measure (SPM). The SPM differs from the official poverty measure in
a number of ways to reflect available financial resources, including
liabilities (such as taxes), the value of in-kind benefits (such as food
stamps), out-of-pocket medical spending (which is generally higher among
older adults), geographic variations in housing expenses, and other
factors. According to the Census Bureau, about one in seven people ages 65
and older (15%) have incomes below the SPM poverty thresholds, compared to
one in ten (10%) under the official measure.
Key findings from this analysis:
- Close to half (45%) of adults ages 65 and older had incomes below
twice the poverty thresholds under the SPM in 2013, compared to 33% of
older adults under the official measure.
- The poverty rate was higher among women ages 65 and older than men in
this age group in 2013 under both the official measure (12% versus 7%) and
the SPM (17% versus 12%). Among people ages 80 and older, 23 percent of
women lived below the SPM poverty thresholds in 2013, compared to 14
percent of men.
- The official poverty rate in 2013 was nearly three times larger among
Hispanic adults than among white adults ages 65 and older (20% versus 7%)
and two and a half times larger among black adults ages 65 and older (18%).
Rates of poverty for all three groups were higher under the SPM, with 28
percent of Hispanic adults, 22 percent of black adults, and 12 percent of
white adults ages 65 and older living below the SPM poverty thresholds in
2013.
- The share of seniors living in poverty is larger in every state under
the SPM than under the official measure, and at least twice as large in 9
states: California (21% versus 10%), Connecticut (14% versus 7%), Hawaii
(17% versus 8%), Indiana (13% versus 6%), Massachusetts (16% versus 8%),
Maryland (16% versus 8%), Nevada (18% versus 9%), New Hampshire (14% versus
6%), and New Jersey (15% versus 7%).
Tina
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> I am not saying that there are no poor senior citizens, but ON AVERAGE in
> most rich countries they are better off than, say, families with small
> children. Many have good retirement plans because they worked at a time
> when companies offered defined benefits plans; they tend to own their homes
> and have paid off the mortgage; in the US, they (and veterans) are the only
> group with universal health insurance from the government. And so on.
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> Again, I know the above does not cover everyone, that the situation
> varies by country to some degree, and on a personal level I certainly do
> not begrudge you whatever discounts you receive (and I am rapidly
> approaching eligibility for those myself…). But from an overall economic
> poiint of view what I say above is correct.
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> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> YNWA
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> > On 27 Feb 2016, at 21:56, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > You would be surprised how many are just old with very little income,
> not really retired. Not the sort you would find on the Sunny Mediterranean.
> >
> > Jim Nichols
> > Tullahoma, TN USA
> >
> > On 2/27/2016 2:27 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> >> Given that retired people are better off, on average, than young
> people, I see little justification for granting discounts and other
> advantages to senior citizens.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nathan
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >> YNWA
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> >>> On 27 Feb 2016, at 20:31, Chris Trask <christrask@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> >>> <<SNIP>>
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> >>>> Living on a pension means ensuring the toys last longer and making
> the most
> >>>> of the offers!
> >>>>
> >>> Amen! Ever since I saw what the future was for people over 30 in
> the workplace, I continued living as a graduate student, saving every penny
> I could but still enjoying hiking, etc. I can cook anything that's on sale
> and enjoy a glass of Three Buck Chuck with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
> >>> - Hunter S. Thompson
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