Sure, Chuck (and yes, you are correct).
Pathology 101
Lesson 1: get used to putting your hands in yucky things.
Lesson 2 gets easier.
Charlie
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Chuck Norcutt <
chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Will you be instructing us in pathology soon? (I hope I got your specialty
> correct) :-)
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
>
> On 9/25/2014 2:38 PM, Charles Geilfuss wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Chris, I understand. It never ceases to amaze what I learn on this
>> List. We should start a JOAT credit program (jack of all trades).
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:34 PM, ChrisB <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> American pilots call it “mil” power, Charlie: it’s maximum power before
>>> you light the afterburner. The throttle quadrant is split into 3 or 4
>>> parts: HP cock off (engine shut down), idle to max dry (mil) and minimum
>>> to
>>> maximum afterburner or reheat. The Tornado has a 4th sector called Combat
>>> power.
>>>
>>> In the dry power section the conventional part of the jet engine
>>> functions
>>> with the efflux providing thrust. But there is plenty of oxygen in the
>>> efflux and that is used for afterburner (“after” meaning at the back
>>> rather
>>> than later) in which guttering in the efflux sprays fuel which is lit to
>>> provide quite a bit more thrust. Modern engines double the thrust with
>>> afterburner, but it uses much more fuel. The EJ200 in the Typhoon has a
>>> massive amount of dry thrust, capable of pushing the aircraft supersonic
>>> (“super cruise”).
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:57, Charles Geilfuss <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What does that term mean, Chris, under "dry power"? That is unfamiliar
>>>> to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:40 PM, ChrisB <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That’s a kind and comforting thought, Ian.
>>>>>
>>>>> I worked on the Eurofighter programme in the mid-90s and there were
>>>>> many
>>>>> challenges to making the platform a success. But after being shown
>>>>>
>>>> around
>>>
>>>> the machine (for the first time ever) by a young pilot, just out of the
>>>>> conversion unit, I’m convinced that it’s a smashing and highly
>>>>> effective
>>>>> multi-role fighter. It’s the first RAF fighter, that I know of, that
>>>>>
>>>> can
>>>
>>>> takeoff safely in dry power (“mil”). I watched them do so before
>>>>>
>>>> climbing
>>>
>>>> at very impressive angles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw one display at RIAT several years ago, but he very nearly died
>>>>>
>>>> when
>>>
>>>> he performed a low-speed gear down barrel roll at low level. Only the
>>>>> stupendous engines got him away from the ground safely.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2014, at 16:54, Ian Nichols <ian.a.nichols@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's an interesting (and complimentary) variation on the old saw
>>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>
>>>> those who can, doing and those who can't, teaching. Just because you
>>>>>>
>>>>> can't
>>>>>
>>>>>> do it anymore doesn't mean you never could, and the youngsters can
>>>>>>
>>>>> learn
>>>
>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>> lot from your experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saw one of those displaying at Southport last Saturday. Pretty
>>>>>>
>>>>> impressive
>>>>>
>>>>>> for height-limited display (it was rather murky).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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