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Subject: Re: [OM] swans
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:46:35 -0500
When they're just little guys gators do survive largely on insects. 
After they get larger they survive mostly on fish.  Gators are cold 
blooded and have a very slow metabolism.  A good sized fish is enough to 
keep a medium sized gator fed for about a week.  It will take some big 
gators to knock off those big Canada geese.  In case you didn't know, 
gators are unable to chew their food.  It must be swallowed whole.  If 
it's too big to go down in one big gulp it must be torn apart with the 
help of other gators or tucked into an underwater hidey-hole to let it 
rot until it falls apart and the gator can eat the pieces.

Chuck Norcutt


On 2/10/2014 1:20 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> I never thought I would say this, but what we need are some gators. But then
> again, maybe they are getting fatter off the huge Florida bugs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Geilfuss
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>
>    Beginning a few years ago, we have had a small population (around 25-50
> birds ) of Canada Geese that have been living year round on the ponds
> scattered around Daniel Island. The area has about a dozen ponds ranging
> from 1/2 acre to three acres. A few geese are picturesque and I enjoy
> seeing them fly over. Their numbers have been stable but if it turns in to
> 250 birds it will be a problem. So far I haven't heard any complaints from
> the residents about them and the HOA has been mum to their presence. The
> local alligators have been getting fatter, so there may be a built-in
> correction factor.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Chuck Norcutt <
> chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Canada geese have two different population types.  One is the normal
>> migratory goose which the "flyway" treaties between the US and Canada
>> were designed to protect.  The other is the resident goose population
>> who (for whatever reasons) do not migrate as their ancestors did.
>> Migratory geese are protected, resident geese are not.  The problem is,
>> how do you tell the difference?  The US Fish & Wildlife Service has been
>> trying to solve this (unsuccessfully) for a long time.  See:
>> <https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/geese.html>
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2014 10:22 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
>>> Our local Zoo has a world class problem, aw hell, our whole state has a
>>> problem with resident Canadian geese. The damn rats with wings are
>>> everywhere, leaving their own special marks behind. They inhabit the zoo
>>> because that's where the food is and guns aren't. The airport has
>> hunters on
>>> a regular basis who have special permits to shoot on sight Canadian
>> geese.
>>> they spray the eggs with Pam coking spray. It helps, but a mass
>> eradication
>>> program would be the only , if you will accept the term, final solution.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chuck Norcutt
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:01 PM
>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>>>
>>> Mute swans in the US are considered an invasive species that threaten
>>> our native birds, other wildlife and aquatic vegetation.  They used to
>>> be protected by a treaty between the US and Canada to protect migratory
>>> waterfowl along the "Atlantic Flyway".  But they were declared an
>>> invasive species and lost that protection about 10 years ago.  The US
>>> Fish and Wildlife service is getting aggressive over control measures
>>> and urging the states to take measures to significantly reduce the
>>> population.
>>> <http://www.fws.gov/refuge/Blackwater/what_we_do/invasivespecies.html>
>>> In some states they are hunted in extended hunting seasons or simply
>>> killed outright.  In Massachusetts the preferred solution (in 2006) was
>>> egg addling. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_egg_addling>
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2014 3:14 PM, John Hudson wrote:
>>>> Knowingly, or unknowingly, damage a swan in the UK and you could be
>>>> looking
>>>> at a very serious period of incarceration with little chance of parole
>>>> !
>>>>
>>>> jh
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.  I haven't seen any swans since we left the Boston area 7 years
>>>> ago.  But they're not very welcome there.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/8/2014 10:45 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote:
>>>>> Local residents of the pond down the road ½mi/1km. We've had some
>>>>> temps
>>>>> in the 20'sF and they've kept this patch of water open for feeding.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=11326
>>>>>
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