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Subject: Re: [OM] swans
From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:20:55 -0600
I never thought I would say this, but what we need are some gators. But then 
again, maybe they are getting fatter off the huge Florida bugs.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Charles Geilfuss
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:11 PM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] swans

  Beginning a few years ago, we have had a small population (around 25-50
birds ) of Canada Geese that have been living year round on the ponds
scattered around Daniel Island. The area has about a dozen ponds ranging
from 1/2 acre to three acres. A few geese are picturesque and I enjoy
seeing them fly over. Their numbers have been stable but if it turns in to
250 birds it will be a problem. So far I haven't heard any complaints from
the residents about them and the HOA has been mum to their presence. The
local alligators have been getting fatter, so there may be a built-in
correction factor.

Charlie


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Chuck Norcutt <
chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Canada geese have two different population types.  One is the normal
> migratory goose which the "flyway" treaties between the US and Canada
> were designed to protect.  The other is the resident goose population
> who (for whatever reasons) do not migrate as their ancestors did.
> Migratory geese are protected, resident geese are not.  The problem is,
> how do you tell the difference?  The US Fish & Wildlife Service has been
> trying to solve this (unsuccessfully) for a long time.  See:
> <https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/geese.html>
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 2/9/2014 10:22 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> > Our local Zoo has a world class problem, aw hell, our whole state has a
> > problem with resident Canadian geese. The damn rats with wings are
> > everywhere, leaving their own special marks behind. They inhabit the zoo
> > because that's where the food is and guns aren't. The airport has
> hunters on
> > a regular basis who have special permits to shoot on sight Canadian
> geese.
> > they spray the eggs with Pam coking spray. It helps, but a mass
> eradication
> > program would be the only , if you will accept the term, final solution.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chuck Norcutt
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:01 PM
> > To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [OM] swans
> >
> > Mute swans in the US are considered an invasive species that threaten
> > our native birds, other wildlife and aquatic vegetation.  They used to
> > be protected by a treaty between the US and Canada to protect migratory
> > waterfowl along the "Atlantic Flyway".  But they were declared an
> > invasive species and lost that protection about 10 years ago.  The US
> > Fish and Wildlife service is getting aggressive over control measures
> > and urging the states to take measures to significantly reduce the
> > population.
> > <http://www.fws.gov/refuge/Blackwater/what_we_do/invasivespecies.html>
> > In some states they are hunted in extended hunting seasons or simply
> > killed outright.  In Massachusetts the preferred solution (in 2006) was
> > egg addling. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_egg_addling>
> >
> > Chuck Norcutt
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/9/2014 3:14 PM, John Hudson wrote:
> >> Knowingly, or unknowingly, damage a swan in the UK and you could be
> >> looking
> >> at a very serious period of incarceration with little chance of parole 
> >> !
> >>
> >> jh
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.  I haven't seen any swans since we left the Boston area 7 years
> >> ago.  But they're not very welcome there.
> >>
> >> Chuck Norcutt
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/8/2014 10:45 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote:
> >>> Local residents of the pond down the road ½mi/1km. We've had some 
> >>> temps
> >>> in the 20'sF and they've kept this patch of water open for feeding.
> >>>
> >>> http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=11326
> >>>
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