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Re: [OM] What the heck is that?

Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck is that?
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:25:41 -0500
I'm sure that much of English is a real headache for non-native 
speakers.  And I'm very glad that I didn't have to learn it as a 
non-native speaker.  I only know what sounds correct.  I don't always or 
even frequently know why.  :-)

Chuck Norcutt


On 3/4/2013 1:37 PM, Piers Hemy wrote:
> I agree with Chris.
>
> As phrased in Fernando's original post: "You're not alone, but in my case I
> still cannot remember what did I photograph" I believe that Chuck's
> suggestion is appropriate (and correct too), but Fernando's second post: "As
> for what did I photograph there" is grammatically not the same expression,
> and Chris' second paragraph is instructive. By which I mean, I never knew
> why it should be so, I just knew that it was so. No doubt that is because I
> have never had to learn English as a foreign language, and I have had the
> pleasure of being corrected by non-native speakers who know better than I
> (though I do my best to reciprocate).
>
> The use of the auxiliary "do" must be a real headache for a non-native
> speaker. Commiserations!
>
> Piers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 04 March 2013 16:59
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck is that?
>
> I agree that it's not the way we say or write it now, but it was once the
> common order, I believe, Chuck.
>
> As I understand it (from German, for instance), if you put an adverb or
> adverbial phrase at the start of a clause, the verb/subject order is
> inverted.  In Wikipedia it gives the example, "In the garden sat a cat.", or
> "only when he was sure of his facts did he enter the argument.".
>
> It is likely that that is the correct order in Spanish, unless the auxiliary
> verb "do" is causing Fernando confusion.
>
> Chris
>
> On 4 Mar 2013, at 14:13, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> AS long as we're on English lessons (and you haven't needed one in a
>> long time) the line below should be: As for what I photographed there...
>> As worded is sounds more like the beginning of a question.
>
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