Well, I'm not sure how I can raise my cholesterol without raising my weight,
too, which has a much more significant contribution to make to mortality.
--Bob
On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> You could do much worse today than spending a bit of time with Dr.
> Malcolm Kendrick's blog at <http://drmalcolmkendrick.org/> You (and
> especially your doctor) could do well with reading most everything you
> find there but for you especially you'll want to scroll down a bit to
> the entry of Sep 25, 2012 titled "Silence was the stern reply".
>
> That post discusses the results of a 10 year long Norwegian study
> covering 50,000 patients titled "Is the use of cholesterol in mortality
> risk algorithms in clinical guidelines valid? Ten years prospective data
> from the Norwegian HUNT 2 study"
>
> Guess what? It was not produced by drug company research. Guess what?
> That means hardly anyone has ever heard of this study. But guess
> what? It generally shows that the risk of death from all causes (not
> just (CVD or IHD) is minimized by having high cholesterol. Imagine
> that. Notice especially that the greatest risk for men or women or for
> all cause mortality or just for CVD or IHD is on the side of low
> cholesterol. You don't want to be there.
>
> ps: For those in the US who use mg/dl (milligrams per deciliter) the
> study results are (in European fashion) expressed in units of mmol/L
> (millimoles/Liter). The results on the graphs range from <5 mmol/L to >
> 7 mmol/L. 5 mmol/L = 193 mg/dl, 7 mmol/L = 270 mg/dl. The midpoint of
> 6 mmol/L = 232 mg/dl.
>
> ps: There are a lot more of these kinds of studies out there. But they
> don't have drug money behind them and just get no press
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 2/7/2013 7:54 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>> My doctor and I have had numerous discussions about statins because I
>> have Type II diabetes, and some medical authorities recommend we Type
>> Twoers take statins as a matter of course. So far I have refused and
>> he has bucked his own superiors' recommendations because my overall
>> cholesterol hovers in the 155 range, and my good and bad are well
>> below those lines which must not be crossed. Something's going to get
>> me eventually, but it won't be cholesterol. (My father expired of a
>> massive heart attack at age 67 while carrying in his pocket a set of
>> lab results similar to mine.)
>>
>> --Bob
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
>>
>>> You probably know this already, but all my medical students
>>> (students I teach but who are studying to be doctors) are
>>> inculcated with the idea that statins are a wonder drug, a putative
>>> "polypill" that all males over 50 should be taking as a matter of
>>> course.
>>>
>>> I wonder who put that idea about . . . ?
>>
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