Thanks. You're right. Not what I want. I remember that image of
Walt's down-on-the-ground tripod.
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/31/2011 5:37 PM, Moose wrote:
> On 7/31/2011 4:34 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>> Thanks. It's not the 410 that's jerky. Its the 3030 or 3029, the
>> ancestor of this one (w/o the bubble level)
>> <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/434497-REG/Manfrotto_804RC2_804RC2_3_Way_Pan_Tilt_Head.html>
>>
>> I just noticed this magnesium 3-way head.
>> <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/553704-REG/Manfrotto_460MG_460MG_3D_Magnesium_Head.html>
>> It has short knobs instead of long handles and uses the same RC2 QR
>> plates as my other head. It must not be jerky as the customer reviews
>> give it high praise. Despite it's similar appearance to the 410 it's
>
> Look closer before leaping. It does not have "short knobs instead of long
> handles". The Manfrotto "3D" designs are quite
> different from the pan-tilt-rotate heads with handles. A name like
> "Free-Form" or some such would be more informative, I
> think.
>
> When you loosen a knob, that frees that axis for movement, but doesn't
> control the movement in any way. You can hold and
> push/pull the knob all you like, but the camera will simply fall around the
> axis of the bolt you just loosened. You keep
> one hand on the camera and use the other to loosen the axes, position the
> camera with the first hand, then tighten the
> knobs with the other.
>
> This image (on the same tripod Walt used) should give you a better idea of
> how it is articulated.
> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Tech/QR_Receivers&image=_MG_2676croof60.jpg>
>
> You can get the camera into positions impossible with other heads - and using
> it is unlike any other head I've over
> used. From what you've been talking about, it doesn't sound like what you
> want.
>
> I have the 3025, a simpler, lighter model 3D head, and use it very, very
> seldom. It's not general purpose. Walt used one
> to get the camera on the end of his Cullman extension pole right down on the
> ground. He posted this and the following
> two images of that set-up.
> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Tech/QR_Receivers&image=Cullman01.jpeg>
>
> Moose
>
>> not a geared head.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 7/31/2011 2:24 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>> I just bought a used version of the small Bogen/Manfrotto 410 geared
>>>> tripod head. It's something I've wanted for years since my other
>>>> tripod
>>>> head tends to be less than smooth in its operation. It can be very
>>>> jerky in its adjustments at times which is very frustrating.
>>>>
>>> I have a 410 and it's not jerky, but does tend to get a bit harder to turn
>>> near the limits of its travel - I suppose it's worn in a bit as I've had it
>>> for many years.
>>>
>>>> I knew that the 410 used different QR plates but I really wasn't
>>>> prepared for how large they are. Despite being for the "small" geared
>>>> head the QR plates look like they were designed for a 6x7 camera. I
>>>> also had just purchased some "anti-twist" plates for my other (much
>>>> smaller) Manfrotto QR plates. But I don't see such an accessory for
>>>> these 410 plates. Do they grip well enough that the anti-twist plates
>>>> are not required?
>>>>
>>> The plates I have grip well enough with Zuikos up to about 135mm, once I get
>>> to 300mm I rotate the lens on its own tripod mount and with the bellows I
>>> just rotate the body. Also no worries with the RB67 as I can just rotate
>>> the back (RB). The RB67 is the only camera I use where I leave the QR plate
>>> mounted to the body, these plates really are too big to be left permanently
>>> on an OM or E-? body.
>>>
>>>> Finally, I seem to recall that someone (Walt& Moose?) had modified
>>>> their 410 plates using a Cullmann QR assembly like this one (?)
>>>> <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/511754-
>>>> REG/Cullmann_CU_40440_Medium_Quick_Release_Assembly.html>
>>>>
>>>> Do I have this anywhere near correct? It was a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
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