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Subject: Re: [OM] "Affordable" perspective and landscape - was RE: MF fuji vs. Mamiya
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:23:13 -0500
Thanks for the well considered response.  I'll have to file this one 
away for future reference.

Chuck Norcutt


On 2/9/2011 7:13 PM, Jeff Keller wrote:
> The Shen Hao cameras seem to be well thought of by the members of the large
> format forum. There is an importer (Hugo Zhang?) that frequents the list.
> The consensus seems to be that the build quality isn't equal to a German
> camera but people are happy with them and I haven't seen ANY complaints.
> Some people have even talked Shen Hao into making custom cameras for them
> (uncommon sizes typically).
>
> The 6x9 Shen Hao probably accepts Horseman and other 6x9 Graflok roll film
> backs. These holders are very reliable though if the film is left in them it
> can develop a curl which affects film flatness.
>
> I've heard mixed things about the Chinese made roll film holders. It
> probably comes down to being reasonably careful with it and it will work
> fine but there may also be a quality control issues. Badger Graphic would
> almost certainly fix any problems.
>
> The Horseman 6x9 reflex viewer (ebay 250759676250) can be very handy. I've
> never seen one for a 6x17 camera. I don't know if the Horseman viewer would
> fit a Shen Hao camera.
>
> Lenses for either 6x17 or 6x9 shouldn't be much of a problem. 180-210mm is a
> normal lens for 4x5 and are pretty reasonably priced. Below about 135mm the
> cost would start to climb for a lens to cover a 6x17. Longer than 210 and
> lightweight starts to get expensive: a Nikkor-M or Fujinon-A 300mm f9 is a
> very well thought of lens (costs about $450). A quick look shows that a
> Schneider 75mm Super Angulon would sell for about $300 and would work for
> 6x17.
>
> Lenses for specifically for 6x9 would be cheaper and lighter but typically
> older and less common.
>
> A 4x enlargement of 6x17 =>  10" x 24" (you could put your nose on it and it
> would look sharp). Large format is fun if you aren't in a hurry.
>
> Jeff Keller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:32 PM
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] "Affordable" perspective and landscape - was RE: MF fuji
> vs. Mamiya
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.  The Shen-Hao looks interesting but the roll
> film holder and lens are unknowns to me.  I've also been intrigued by
> the Shen-Hao 617s such as this one.
> <https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3029>
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 2/9/2011 4:38 PM, Jeff Keller wrote:
>> Ignoring affordability: a Canon 5Dii with shift lenses ...
>>
>> More affordable: a Canon 5D with an old Nikon 15mm (correct perspective
> when
>> necessary, crop), Zuikos for landscape.
>>
>> Almost any 4/3 with a Zuiko 7-14mm.
>>
>> For the patient photographer: Shen Hao TFC68A
>> https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3164
>>
>> For personal fun: an OM with shift lenses and an 18mm Zuiko ...
>>
>> For patient weight lifters: an old Calumet($250) or Sinar($500) 4x5. Film
> is
>> expensive but the IQ can be very impressive.
>>
>> For the insane, insisting on some portability: a camera like the Dayi
>> Portable 4x5 with a 47mm lens. Ebay: 270695689637. (no long focal lengths)
>>
>> I like the Mamiya 7ii but 43mm without shifts isn't wide enough for a lot
> of
>> "architecture". Although not insanely priced, the lenses run about $500 -
>> $1300 each so it can add up quickly. Great IQ though. If I were to take a
>> single, easily portable camera for landscape, this would likely be the
> one.
>> It wouldn't be my first choice for somewhere new to me and far away
> because
>> no long focal lengths (I guess I could crop the 210mm image).
>>
>> Jeff Keller
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Subject: Re: [OM] MF fuji vs. Mamiya
>>
>> And your recommendation for an affordable architectural and landscape
>> camera is...?
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>
>
>
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