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Re: [OM] Pee bags, was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and shoot

Subject: Re: [OM] Pee bags, was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and shoot
From: "Sue Pearce" <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:09:54 -0600
Don't know if anyone still uses them, but the brits are veddy traditional, 
so Chris probably can tell us.

Bill Pearce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Geilfuss" <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] Pee bags,was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and 
shoot


> Do they still just vent it out on the ground-dwellers' heads? They're not
> always flying over the enemy you know.
>
> Charlie
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Sue Pearce <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps the term you young fellows are trying to recall is "relief tube"
>> where your by-products are sent outdoors.
>>
>> Bill Pearce
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Barker" <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:30 PM
>> Subject: [OM] Pee bags, was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and 
>> shoot
>>
>>
>> > For the aircraft which have it, Charles, it's just a toilet.  In 
>> > smaller,
>> > faster machines it's a pee bag or something like "relief system".  I've
>> > only used it once, in the F16.
>> >
>> > Story: switch off now if you get bored easily.
>> >
>> > My first ever long-range trip, using a USAF Reserves KC-135 to get 5 
>> > F16s
>> > from MacDill AFB, FL to NAS Miramar near San Diego.  I felt the need to
>> > pee after a couple of hours, perhaps over Texas.  So I broke the 
>> > membrane
>> > on a pee bag and tried to use it.  But the little fighter's seat is
>> > inclined at 30deg (vs the 13deg of most other ejection seats) and I'm 
>> > not
>> > well-endowed enough to make the flow from leaning backwards like that.
>>  So
>> > I have to unstrap and lean forward a bit.  But also it's cold in the
>> > cockpit and a limp dick becomes quite difficult to find.  So you have 
>> > to
>> > think warm thoughts to make it all happen!
>> >
>> > What is also difficult is holding formation with a tanker while trying 
>> > to
>> > find your willie in a flight suit strapped into an ejection seat.  So I
>> > wandered away from the formation and almost couldn't find them when I 
>> > had
>> > finished my business.
>> >
>> > But that was preferable to a USAF colleague's experience.  Before we
>> > departed MacDill he showed me a pee tube affair that he had rigged up: 
>> > a
>> > funnel over said willie, tube-connected to a pee bag in his lower 
>> > flight
>> > suit pocket.  Trouble was it leaked ... and he got out of his 
>> > super-cool
>> > F16 on the ramp at Fightertown USA with a long wet patch on his flight
>> > suit leg and crotch, risking great scorn from our Naval hosts.  Oh, the
>> > ignominy!
>> >
>> > And this is a photo of me in a D-model (2-seater) just before departing
>> > Miramar.  I think it was taken with an Olympus Infinity Twin, bought in
>> > San Diego a few days before.
>> >
>> > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100053
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > On 8 Dec 2009, at 18:09, Charles Geilfuss wrote:
>> >
>> >> Chris what do the fly boys call it? I've never heard it called 
>> >> anything
>> >> in
>> >> the big jets. In the small ones I suppose its a diaper or "just 
>> >> wait".?!
>> >>
>> >> Charlie
>> >
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