John, I remember reading about that one as well. As I recall the old strip
they landed on was being used as a drag strip at the time, literally. I know
most pilots, myself included, don't like hearing pilot error, but that seems to
be the case quite a bit of the time. As an aircraft mechanic by trade, I always
wonder on the mechanical part, but that is not near as often the case. I had
worked on one of AA's 757's that auger-ed into the side of a mountain in
Columbia some years back. I had to get my book out and make sure what I had
done on it, had just changed a coffee maker, so I didn't have a worry. That was
eventually blamed on controller/pilot error, with the majority going to the non
english speaking controller, if I remember correctly. They don't call them
accidents for a reason.
Jerry
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--- On Sun, 12/21/08, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety and
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To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:53 PM
Jerry .............. I think you just confirmed his incompetence; he failed to
set his altimeter properly. Like the Air Canada pilot who oversaw the fuelling
of his 757 or 767 in Montreal and then found himself gliding the plane down from
35,000 feet out of power over Manitoba to land at some deserted WW2 airfield.
His only saving grace was that he had earned a glider pilot's licence in the
Air Cadets was back. Mr 757/767 Pilot misguaged the fuelling in liters and not
in gallons. I recall that Mr 757/767 got fired, lost his pension, got sued and
probably got nothing betting than flying a rubber-band-wind-up-the-propeller
crop duster plane. Sad, but incompetent.
jh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Smith" <proud_texan63@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:44 PM
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John, No, not incompetent, just made an error. He failed to set his altimeter
to field elevation for his minimums. He had quite a lot of hours, but was no
longer on the Thunderbirds afterward.
Jerry
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--- On Sun, 12/21/08, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety and
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To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:33 PM
Was the pilot just incompetent ?
It seems hard to believe that he put his plane flat on the runway for any
reason other than not knowing what should have been done.
How many flying hours had the pilot logged ahead of performing this stunt ?
jh
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From: "Chris Barker" <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety
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> No, it's a bomber; but take all the kit off and it looks pretty good.
> Not as good as a Viper, of course.
>
> But then all Viper displays don't look good:
>
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/192468/f16_crash/
>
> When the solo Thunderbird pulled-through (Split-S) from below his gate
> height.
>
> This is such a good video that we show our students as a lesson in
> flight safety.
>
> Chris
>
> On 21 Dec 2008, at 16:16, Ken Norton wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> A fully loaded Tornado is obviously not a good "air-show"
plane.
>>
>> I remember when the F16 was being showed for the first time at the
>> Paris Air
>> Show. The routine they had that first year was unbelievable!
>> Halfway down
>> the runway on the takeoff roll, it went straight up then did an
>> imitation
>> hammerhead (obviously it wasn't) and came screaming straight back
>> down at
>> the runway where at the last second it pulled back out to horizontal
>> and
>> continued down the runway at about 100 foot. It was a routine that
>> stopped
>> everybody in their tracks--NOBODY had seen anything like it before.
>
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