Ah yes, Piers, I see your point. I became confused about who said what. I do
agree with Chris in that "vigilando" is the gerund (more accurate than present
participle but with essentially the same usage) derived from "vigilare" and as
such is treated as a verbal noun. However, I think Donald's English
translation sounds more natural and, even though it doesn't carry over every
nuance of the original Latin, I would say it's acceptable to use the noun
"vigilance" here as it's clear from the "custodimus", that "we" are the one's
being vigilant.
Although my Latin teacher was pretty thourough when it came to grammar, he
would always tell us, after translating something into English, to ask
ourselves: "Does it sound natural?"
Duncan.
Also without his Lewis.
Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
I say, chaps, this is mighty impressive! But, Duncan, you seem to be
agreeing with Chris rather than Donald, though I no longer have access to
Lewis & Short (1880) to check.
--
Piers
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From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Duncan Paterson
Sent: 23 November 2005 13:10
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [OM] Re: Another AP article full of praise
I would agree with Donald here (and not just because he's a Scot ;-) ). I
would interpret "vigilando" as the ablative of "vigilans", the present
participle of "vigilare" i.e. "by watching".
Dvncan.
Chris Barker wrote:
Probably not Donald, but I think that "vigilando" is the gerund of
"vigilare", whereas the Latin for vigilance was "vigilantia". Not
that I'm one to pick nits or anything ... ;-)
Chris
[still a bit puffed from rushing upstairs to check my Cassell's Latin
Dictionary (1944) ;-).] ~~ >-)- C M I Barker Cambridgeshire, Great Britain.
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On 23 Nov 2005, at 12:28, Donald MacDonald wrote:
> 'By vigilance we guard', if I'm not as rusty as I think..!
>
> D.
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