Well as you say I did not use the E1 long enough...about a day...to be honest I
could carre less about the interface....after a few days I would be used to it
and that would be that.
So my impressions of the E1...hmmmm...I think this is a good first attempt for
Olympus (I do NOT mean this in a condecending way). I think the E2 will be
awesome.
To be honest, the small sensor size of the E1 makes for, well, poor noise I
think. I have just gotten used to being able to shoot superb ISO 800 shots
with the S2...and with a quick Neat Image on ISO 1600 I can have awesome pics.
And the out of camera shots from an S2 are really the best I have seen, and
this is after trying MANY DSLRs before getting one (big investment you know).
Now the S2 is not built nearly as well as the E1 ;-( NOT EVEN CLOSE, but in
the end I think the S2 takes much better pictures...again this is not to
hob-nob but I traded off build quality and kit quality, which the E1 has, for
better pictures (IMHO).
I really think Olympus will have a SUPERB E2 (I hope we really need
competition).
Now if Oly bought a Fuji Sensor then........
>>> om2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/13/04 03:34pm >>>
As you say, there's nothing like using a product to appreciate it. I had only
15 minutes with the S2, so my opinion wasn't formed over a long period. As a
counterargument, I have heard of very few people who have been unhappy the the
images that they get out of their S2's.
What didn't you like about the E-1? The only thing that I really wish for
these days is a constantly-displayed ISO marker. Otherwise the camera has been
superb.
Skip
----- Original Message ---------------
Subject: [OM] Re: Foveon X3
From: "BILL CLARK" <BCLARK@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:23:20 -0400
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>Skip...you are right about the looks of S2/S3....not that cool.
>
>But after using S2 for 2 yrs now I can honestly say there is nothing out there
>that takes as pictures....superb noise control as well.
>
>The extra LCD is great.....more info the better.
>
>Funny though, when Itried out the E1 I thought its interface was
>horrible....guess it is what you are used to.
>
>>>> om2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/13/04 01:15pm >>>
>
>You've done more research than I have. It's good to hear that the Kodak
>cameras are moving out of the studio more. Don't I remember hearing that you
>still have to shoot RAW with them, as the JPG output isn't that great? Or has
>that changed with the latest models?
>
>I also looked at the Fuji S2 last year, and even if it did produce great
>results, I wasn't very impressed by the UI and the way that the whole camera
>looked cobbled together with it's multiple LCD panels. I'm very big into
>investing in camera systems that are well thought out from a usability
>standpoint, as long as they perform. That was a big part of my investing in
>the E-System. The S3's specs look very, very good....but it's still butt-ugly,
>from my perspective.
>
>Skip
>
>
>----- Original Message ---------------
>
>Subject: [OM] Re: Foveon X3
> From: Winsor Crosby <wincros@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:01:32 -0700
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>>
>>The owners on the forum at dpreview.com are rabidly enthusiastic, but
>>the examples I have seen and reviews seem to indicate that the image
>>you get is only a little different from any other DSLR. Better in some
>>ways and worse in others. It is going to have to be way, way better to
>>make me buy a Sigma camera.
>>
>>I don't think that the Kodak cameras are as limited as you seem to
>>indicate, especially the latest ones. Landscape photographers like them
>>too. I don't think you could call it a press camera or family snap
>>taker though.
>>
>>The new Fujifilm S3 Pro with its high dynamic range sensor is
>>intriguing though.
>>
>>
>>
>>Winsor
>>Long Beach, California, USA
>>On Oct 13, 2004, at 8:36 AM, Skip Williams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> From my wanderings, people using the Sigma cameras report very
>>> "film-like" results with smooth tonal transitions, etc. But the
>>> hardware implementation leaves something to be desired, as I remember.
>>> There were lots of complaints about usability, range of ISO's, file
>>> formats, etc. I also remember that a large percentage of users were
>>> either wedding or studio photographers, who can control their
>>> environment much more than many other types of photographers. That's
>>> very similar to the pigeonhole that the Kodak cameras are in, where
>>> they're very good in the studio at low ISOs, but mediocre elsewhere.
>>>
>>> In the end, it's an interesting technology and very elegant. But it's
>>> not for me. I've stuck my neck out far enough with the E-System right
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ---------------
>>>
>>> Subject: [OM] Re: Foveon X3
>>> From: "John Hermanson" <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:14:51 -0400
>>> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exactly! The ads suggest the Foveon chip is capable of amazing
>>>> performance,
>>>> but test reports have not reflected that at all.
>>>>
>>>> John Hermanson
>>>> Camtech Photo Services, Inc.
>>>> 21 South Lane,
>>>> Huntington, NY, 11743-4714,
>>>> 631-424-2121, www.zuiko.com
>>>> _________________________________
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Scales" <tscales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:22 AM
>>>> Subject: [OM] Re: Foveon X3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the reviews of the Sigma SD9 and SD10.
>>>>>
>>>>> Theory = Good
>>>>> Results = Bad
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gareth.J.Martin" <g.j.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: "om" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: [OM] Foveon X3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>> I was just reading some of the more recent posts and a few
>>>>>> mentioned the Foveon X3 chip. I've heard of it but didn't know what
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is so i had a good read of their website. Foveon seem to make some
>>>>>> major
>>>>>> claims about how their chip is like film and produces results
>>>>>> comparable
>>>>>> to film. I can seem how the chip could be much better than an
>>>>>> ordinary
>>>>>> CCD or CMOS chip but am a little dubious. Has anyone any experience
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> using the Foveon X3 chip and if so does it produce better, more
>>>>>> emulsion-like quality images? What about capturing highlights and
>>>>>> lowlights too? Sorry, just curious! Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Gareth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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