Zuiks;
I'm not going to respond to this drivel except to say that I was the one who
initiated the off-list communication with Jan after he attacked me
personally on the list and I did not respond to his offer of a 'Deal'
because of the condescending, smart-mouth way it was presented.
If any other people would like to let me know how they feel, please do it
offlist. I am open to all opinions on this issue. Hit me with your best
shot. It may do us both some good :>) Just don't open your message by
calling me a 'Bigot' or 'Flame Bait', OK?
George
PS: Doesn't it scare anyone else that there are people who want to decide
where others can drive and what kind of vehicle they can go there in?
Seriously. And I'm not talking about driving a big, baloon-tired SUV over
the nearest grove of endangered plants, I'm talking about legal roadways.
This is insane, IMHO.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Steinman <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks and Buses
>>From: "george" <geanders@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>Charlie;
>>
>>Yeah, I did misunderstand. But it was still a great platform for a rant!
>>:>)
>
>But George can't take it like he can dish it out. I am personally
>insulted at his jingoistic, bigoted description of the many thankless
>government employees who keep our national treasures from looking
>like Disneyland. I informed him of that in private email, and asked
>him privately to stop, but there he goes again...
>
>I'd like to express my appreciation to those who have made
>thoughtful, reasoned responses, as opposed to George's stereotypical,
>knee-jerk, anti-regulation,
>try-to-stop-me-from-doing-what-I-damn-well-please selfish responses.
>
>BTW: I privately offered a deal to George off-line: I'd agree not to
>call him names, which apparently drives him nuts, if he'd agree not
>to give me reason to, pointing out that there are other forums more
>suited to such discussion. He apparently lacks the necessary
>self-restraint. I hope someone backs into his SUV. :-)
>
>>Someone's suggestion of electric trams would cost about as much as a Space
>>Station. Get real.
>
>Yea, it would take a superpower with an established space program to
>do something like that, like Switzerland. (Ever been to Wengen?) When
>your perspective is limited to what is in front of you, it's hard to
>accept it can be done any other way. Yet a tiny, land-locked nation
>of six million puts the US to shame in creative ways of dealing with
>such problems.
>
>I'm out of this discussion now. It doesn't belong here. My further
>silence should not be taken as tacit agreement that it's George's
>Constitutional Right to drive his SUV where ever he wants, including
>land I, as a taxpayer, partially own. Bring on the electric trams! :-)
>
>I'd like to apologize to the list for taking up George's flame bait.
>At least I did try to communicate privately with him, but he seems to
>have some deep psychological need to spew this bigoted vituperation
>in public, to a group of people HE DAMN WELL KNOWS FROM PAST
>EXPERIENCE include some who object strongly to his views.
>
>I'm unsubscribing now. I may be back in a few weeks, but I have to
>listen to crap like George's every day on the news -- I read this
>list to get away from it. Go suck on your SUV's tailpipe, George.
>
>Obligatory Olympus content: I took some great photos with my OM-4T in
>a National Park last month, while using public transportation, thanks
>to the courage and foresight of the National Park Service, who won't
>allow Crater Lake to become another Lake Tahoe.
>
>: Jan Steinman <mailto:Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>: Bytesmiths <http://www.bytesmiths.com>
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