Frank van Lindert wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 05:40:46 -0400, Robert Bund
> <rbund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Frank van Lindert wrote:
>
> >>
> >> I agree wit this, but it IMHO it doesn't at all justify Robert's way
> >> of selling. What makes things worse is, that at the same time the
> >> auction of this lens went running he has also advertised it for sale
> >> in rec.photo.marketplace (without mentioning eBay) for $795...
> >>
> >> I posted a follow-up message in this newsgroup, warning potential
> >> bidders.
> >>
> >> Later he made a new posting there, without apologies, without pointing
> >> to the earlier one, but indeed mentioning the eBay auction. The older
> >> posting was not canceled, though....
> >>
> >> I can imagine that Robert must be desperate after all fruitless
> >> efforts to sell his beatiful lens, but trying to sell directly and by
> >> auction at the same time is definetly not the right way of doing it.
> >>
> >> Frank van Lindert
> >> Utrecht Netherlands.
> >>
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> >
> >Hi Frank,
> >
> >First of all, I am not trying to sell directly AND by auction at the
> >same time. I am contractually obligated to sell the lens via eBay if
> >the reserve is met. I think you know that. After there was no response
> >to a direct offer on the Newsgroup, and after 8 months without
> >consummating a sale on the Olympus List, I simply decided to try my luck
> >at eBay. I'm not quite sure why even the mention of the word "eBay"
> >ruffles so many feathers - perhaps it's a control issue, or maybe eBay
> >tends to be a more efficient marketplace and people don't like that - I
> >really don't know.
>
> Hello Bob.
>
> The lens was put on for direct sale at rec.photo.marketplace only TWO
> HOURS AND FORTY-FIVE MINUTES before you put it up for auction at eBay.
> This is what alarmed me. And the warning I consequently issued was to
> prevent people from buying directly, not the opposite - otherwise I
> would have mailed to eBay (and to you, of course).
>
> Mistakes can always happen, I know. And you must have felt you made
> one when posting the next message to the newsgroup:
>
> :Sorry guys. This post was in error. I had pre-written both ads and
> :placed the wrong one here. I have only one 18mm lens and it is
> :committed to the auction. The good news is that the reserve price at
> :the auction is a lot less than $795.
> :Regards,
> :-Bob-
>
> Now this was, albeit a little bit late, exactly what I hoped my
> warning would result in.
>
> BTW, I am not at all opposed to eBay - actually I made a lot of good
> purchases there (and sold some items too). My userid is 'franklin'.
> The only thing I don't like is, that from the listings it isn't
> immediately clear which auctions have a reserve. That would make it
> easier to avoid those if you wanted that.
>
> ...snip...snip
>
> >
> >Well, now that I've vented just a little, I should mention that I don't
> >really take what you say personally, nor do I harbor any ill will. To
> >the contrary, I'm quite happy ro read what you have to say in this forum
> >- it's often instructive and interesting.
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Bob-
>
> Thanks, Bob. You understood things the way I meant them then. Let's
> both keep posting here the way we regularly do: I value your
> contributions too.
>
> And... no hard feelings.
>
> Frank.
>
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Hi Frank,
Your reply is appreciated.
Regards,
-Bob-
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