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Subject: Re: [OM] Paul Van T.
From: Paul Van Tuyl <olympusguy@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 01:08:02 -0600
Speaking of John and CAMTECH. I am providing a link to his site from my website
under SERVICES. John has done work for me in the past and he is honest, smart in
OLY ways and a very ethical business person. Paul.

John Austin wrote:

> >Gary Reese wrote:
>
> >We also left the door open for Paul when someone quoted Wall Street Camera
> >and it turned out to be overpriced on the tripod collar.
>
> As the one that quoted the Wall Street ad, I feel compelled to respond. I
> quoted the price in response to a request from Paul Haigney asking if anyone
> knew where he could obtain a tripod collar. Now I'm new to the list, but I
> assumed that such a response could be from an individual wanting to sell or
> about where to find one, albeit commercially if necessary. As a matter of
> fact, I spent a good thirty or forty minutes searching the web looking for
> the Wall Street Camera ad. I knew I had seen an ad for a collar in the past,
> as I spend a good deal of time searching the web for equipment. I just
> didn't remember where. I'm not complaining about my time. I was glad to do
> it because I knew Paul Haigney, or I hope any other list member, would help
> me out if they could. The information I passed on to Paul was "educational".
> It educated him to where he could find a collar. The information that PvT
> contributed about the collar was also "educational". It educated Paul about
> where he could find a collar even cheaper. Why was it OK for me to point out
> where the collar could be obtained, but not OK for PvT to point out where it
> could be obtained at half the price?
>
> Perhaps I presume here. Maybe I also was in error. Being new, I thought the
> purpose of the list was to pass on information (education). Does it matter
> where that information comes from and even more important, does it matter if
> the information is about items for sale? Plenty of people have bought and
> sold things on the list in the four or so months I've been here. No one has
> objected. And I think this is how it should be. As far as a great many
> dealers flocking to the list with advertisements, I have only seen John H.
> and Pvt advertise here, and I had no problem with either. Where to buy and
> what things should cost can also be educational. For example, it was good to
> know that PvT had the rings for $20.00. I will probably be in the market in
> the not too distant future for a 300mm f4.5. Now I (and Paul) know where to
> get the ring at a good price.
>
> I still don't understand what this is all about. Is it because Pvt offers
> items for sale on the list, or because he's a commercial enterprise? Do I,
> or any other list member, do something wrong by listing where an item can be
> found? Tell me? That's all PvT was doing. So what if it's his own store? A
> good price is a good price. I think Pvt would have been very remiss if he
> had allowed Paul Haigney to pay double the price. PvT was doing what any
> good list member would have done. What I was trying to do. He tried to help.
> If he makes a buck, what's the big deal. Somebody's going to make it. I
> would rather see a list member make a buck than a stranger. When my camera
> needs repair, I will go to John H. for the same reason.
>
> Regards,
> John Austin
> Oakland, CA
>
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