At 9/7/2021 05:41 PM, I wrote:
>At 8/19/2021 11:04 AM, AK wrote:
>>WayneS wrote:
>>> On question: I was reading an FStoppers article on "When Photographers Stop
>>> Seeing" and noticed this comment...
>>>
>>> "It is also important to note that cameras across all brands have imperfect
>>> color interpretation and rendition. Cameras often mistake certain hues for
>>> chromatically neighboring shades. As a landscape photographer, personally
>>> my biggest frustration is when the sensor perceives the blue sky as purple
>>> due to the bright warm cast of the sun during the golden hour."
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you are seeing this in your image here? or do you think
>>> it is pretty accurate? Looking at the background.
>>
>>I'm going to say that the Olympus EM-5 and the E-3 are probably about
>>the most "accurate" in color here in Alaska when using "Adobe Color"
>>in Lightroom. The AWB of the EM-5 is actually the best of ALL of my
>>cameras. Hands down, it's the best.
>>
>>What you are seeing in the background, with the bluish cast is not
>>unusual for the Olympus cameras. However, this is quite a bit
>>different than just about all other cameras that turn it some putrid
>>color. "Adobe Color" or "Adobe Standard" does a good job with Olympus
>>cameras of keeping those blues in the distant more neutral. The
>>Panasonic and Sony cameras are difficult to get balanced, but the
>>Canons are in an entirely different world with colors. Lighting is
>>very odd here in Alaska with very clear skies that have unusual
>>pollutants in the atmosphere that come from Europe and northern Asia.
>>I can almost always identify pictures taken with Canons. They have
>>really horrid colors.
>>
>>In this specific photograph, I used "Adobe Standard". Highlight and
>>Shadow recovery are at nearly 100%. I exposed to protect the
>>highlights, so there was another stop worth of exposure recovery. Tons
>>of other adjustments too. I shot this with the cellphone too, and I
>>could actually get the colors and contrast to match almost identically
>>(using Adobe Standard on the iPhone12Pro's dng shot in the Lightroom
>>app), but the noise in the iPhone shot is MUCH MUCH worse.
>>
>>Side note about Lightroom. The AWB in Lightroom with Sony and
>>Panasonic files is terrible. VERY VERY terrible.
>
>For the cameras that don't get the color the way you like, have you
>experimented with the camera profiles? Or try creating one?
>This was an interesting article on using a Linear profile.
>https://trentsizemore.com/blog/using-a-linear-camera-calibration-profile/
>Also explains how to create a profile using the DNG Profile Editor.
>How would using a linear profile help/hurt the need for Highlight/Shadow at
>100%?
>The linear profile was suggested on FM for someone with over saturated colors.
>
>curious WayneS
PS: The profile editor I had to download with filezilla at ftp.adobe.com
Username: anonymous Password: password
and go to
/pub/adobe/dng/win for windows
/pub/adobe/dng/mac for mac
I am wondering if you can adjust/create the profile for specific cameras to get
the look you want from them might save a lot of post processing. I'm just
wondering, if saying the EM-5 just works, happens to be that the adobe profiles
just works for that camera. So is the issue with other cameras simply a matter
of getting the profile in Adobe corrected for that camera versus anything
special about the camera itself?
WayneS
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