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Re: [OM] New additions to the Living History Farm

Subject: Re: [OM] New additions to the Living History Farm
From: "Wayne Harridge" <wayne.harridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 22:04:09 +1000
I like your 110 stack Wayne, but I'm not sure reading that article was worth
the time !

...Wayne (H)


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> From: olympus <olympus-
> bounces+wayne.harridge=structuregraphs.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
> Behalf Of Wayne Shumaker
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> To: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] New additions to the Living History Farm
> 
> At 9/4/2020 02:19 PM, Mike wrote:
> >The AF on Pany bodies undoubtedly slow as molasses.
> >
> ><<That is my opinion too. It's easily the sharpest, and most insanely
> ><<dimensional lens I've ever used. This lens has Lightroom's
> ><<Texture/Clarity/DeHaze sliders already built-in.
> >
> >Sounds like high microcontrast characteristic of many Zeiss lenses.  Many
> use the C/Y 35-70 f3.4 manual lens on Sonnie for the high microcontrast
and
> "3D rendering."
> >
> >The microcontrast can be mimicked in post but the "3D rendering" seems
> next to impossible at least for me.   Something to do with the transition
> zone/bokeh  rendering it seems.
> >Using the C/Y zoom one can not any LCE in post or it looks overcooked. I
can
> tell on the smidgy cam LCD that the lens was used.  Mine developed some
> play in the barrel and not one shop wanted to service it in the US.
> >They said they were used and abused by pros and then sold and they are a
> bear to disassemble.  I sent it to the Netherlands on advice from FM
people
> who one it.  On my best adapter though it is a wee smidge off infinity
focus
> now--drat.  Seems I need a shorter adapter now.
> >
> >
> ><<You end up with a 3D subject that has a distinct separation from what
> >is <<behind
> >
> >Would like to see the same image(s) as take by the 14-35/2, PL 12-60 and
> Oly  MZ 12-100/4 with a suitable image requiring 3D rendering.  Suspect
that
> is an impossible search.  The 12-100 despite the long FL often does not
excel
> at subject/background separation and that is a bear for me to try and fix
in
> post.   Oh the PL 12-60 has highest mag at long end and the macro
> ability/rendering is quite nice.  Am not sure can be smitten by an AF lens
not
> made for mirrorless.  The 14-35/2 also is not very good for quick macro.
For
> some applications on FT and not MFT, one can see how it is attractive.
> >
> >3D rendering fan, Mike
> 
> I have had images with the 3D-pop look and part of it seemed more the OOF
> transitions. So in my ignorance of Micro-contrast, I researched a bit.
> 
> I too would like to see some examples. There is some various opinions on
> whether micro-contrast can be measured. Also the camera sensor must have
> something to do with it? In my search I found this interesting article
(note it is
> a bit satirical):
> 
> https://photographylife.com/the-death-of-beautiful-rendition-and-3d-pop-
> on-modern-lenses
> 
> In the article he gives an example of the Nikon 24-120 f/4 and 85/1.4. At
first I
> thought my eyes were defective, so make sure you read the last paragraph.
> 
> Moose, you may recognize the cat in his article - same as your "Tuesday
Cat"
> posted a while back (3/10/2020).
> 
> Anyone have some 3D-pop examples? Or other lenses to wax philosophical
> about?
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/amK2PhUuMomNuLUX8
> 110mm stack.
> 
> WayneS
> 
> 
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