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Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Paris
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 23:47:44 +0200
I am not worried in any event, but the phrase "copyrighted the design" is legal 
nonsense.

Anyway, I have many more photos violating French laws. It is a particular hobby 
of mine :-)

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/

YNWA










On May 30, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

> Looks like they probably won't go after you:
> 
> The Eiffel Tower's likeness had long since been part of the public domain,
> when in 2003, it was abruptly repossessed by the city of Paris. That's the
> year that the SNTE, the company charged with maintaining the tower, adorned
> it with a distinctive lighting display, copyrighted the design, and in one
> feel swoop, reclaimed the nighttime image and likeness of the most popular
> monument on earth. In short: they changed the actual likeness of the tower,
> and then copyrighted that.
> 
> As a result, it's no longer legal to publish current photographs of the
> Eiffel Tower at night without permission. Technically, this applies even to
> amateurs. When I spoke to the Director of Documentation for SNTE, Stéphane
> Dieu, via phone last week, he assured me that SNTE wasn't interested in
> prohibiting the publication of amateur photography on personal Web sites.
> "It is really just a way to manage commercial use of the image, so that it
> isn't used in ways we don't approve," said Mr. Dieu.
> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, I am not sure what they mean by "brand rights", but I doubt that the
>> lighting is trademarked. The lighting is apparently copyrighted, or so SETE
>> claims. The best explanation is actually on Wikipedia:
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_Tower#Image_copyright_claims
>> 
>> This will not cause me to lose sleep, especially given the non-commercial
>> usage. My site is hosted in the Netherlands. So there.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 30, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
>> 
>>>> However, its various illuminations are subject to author’s rights as
>> well
>>>> as brand rights. Usage of these images is subject to prior request from
>> the
>>>> "Société d’Exploitation de la Tour Eiffel" (the Eiffel Tower’s operating
>>>> company, or SETE).
>>> 
>>> Fortunately, Nathan is an expert on EU trademark stuff.
>>> 
>>> 
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