I think this belongs on some other list. I have opinions about all the topics
raised but express them elsewhere. So should you. Unless you have some
intersting photos of aborted fetuses and valiant gunslingers THAT YOU HAVE
PHOTOGRAPHED to show us.
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On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:34 PM, <r.burnette@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Moral philosophy = the study of human conduct and values (Merriam-Webster
> dictionary)
>
> Mike, why are sanctity of life values limited to a religious tradition or
> conviction? Is not respect for life a common philosophical issue? A survival
> issue? Not all human values have a religious base. But in our nation this had
> been the traditional values base until around the 1960's. Law and religion
> brought order, moral values, and expectations which shaped our nation and
> "tamed" the anarchic Old West. Since the 1960's we have seen our society
> become more profane, more narcissistic, more greedy. Our moral base has
> eroded. As an 80 year old, I have watched this creeping "decay" with deep
> sorrow.
>
> Personal and group morals are critical elements of social order. Morals shape
> our lives and guide our behaviors. Don't we classify amoral people as
> sociopaths?
>
> My abortion point was that we tend to pick and choose when it comes to which
> killings are, or are not, acceptable to us and to the society at large. If
> abortion on demand is not an example of moral decay in our society, then what
> is it? Over 53,000,000 deaths! I wonder if China, with their one child
> policy, comes close to that number. And we are supposed to be a civilized
> country?
>
> I firmly believe that the entire gun control issue is a diversion to distract
> the populace from more important issues.
>
> ---- Mike Lazzari <watershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> it is a "woman's choice" whether to kill or not kill a living human being
>> Second time this has been brought up as an example of "moral decay". The
>> morals thing is a religious conviction. To each their own. Just don't
>> inflict it on me. Besides, it isn't germaine to the gun issue.
>
> Isn't germaine? Supposedly, concern for needlessly and wantonly taking
> another person's life is at the heart of the gun control issue.
>
> "To each their own" taken literally and universally suggests a world without
> common agreements, laws, or prohibitions. No civilization can survive that
> way. Respect for life and others is necessary for societal health and safety.
>
>
> Don't "inflict" one's opinion on someone else. (That is exactly my point
> concerning the gun control issue.)
>
> But people have to take a stand on some things or surrender to those who are
> willing to push their own agenda. (Recall the Third Reich, Cambodia, the
> Chinese, French, and Russian revolutions.) As the old adage says, "The
> squeaky wheel gets the grease." Moral decay occurs when those who have more
> positive values stay silent and inactive while those with lesser values speak
> out and act. Which are the more positive values? Those which enhance a
> society and make it a better and safer place to live, embrace freedom, raise
> families, and enjoy a more productive life.
>>
>>> Which is why this whole discussion is utterly pointless.
>
> I thought I cited a few points. ;o)
>>
>> And I do agree with some of your other points.
>>
> Thanks.
>>
> Robert
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