Now let's get started on the myth of ETHANOL, and who is raking it in...
Old Rick - currently replacing fuel lines destroyed by that stuff!
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Preserving jobs by subsidizing farms is just about the most inefficient
> way to do so. And we are talking a lot more money than "a couple of
> billions". The bottom line is that we (both the US and Europe) have a
> system where the ordinary worker's taxes are used to subsidize mostly big
> farms, and to add spite to injury, the food prices are higher than they
> need to be as a result.
>
> Like I said, pigs feeding at the trough.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Op Wo, 6 november, 2013 16:55, schreef Ken Norton:
> >> Yeah, lots of families here:
> >> http://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips=00000&progcode=total
> >
> > Rice and cotton are another story. But you look at those subsidities
> > and they were price support for when the commodity cost dropped far
> > below cost of production. Granted, in the south, there are some
> > massive corporate farms, but I scanned the list down into the 300s and
> > still didn't find anything in Iowa.
> >
> > The reality is that for rice/cotton production, I doubt that there are
> > many family farms just because of the volotility of those markets as
> > well as cost of production. In the deep south, farming has pretty much
> > always been big business.
> >
> > Where I do have a problem with the above situation, though, is that
> > there should be a little more free and open market. If the commodity
> > price of cotton and rice is too low to sustain itself, then convert
> > over to something else for a while until the prices come back.
> > Unfortunately, in the real world, this usually means loss of
> > capability and allowing other producers to dominate in a way that
> > there will never be any recovery. Once we lose cotton and rice
> > production, it will forever be gone.
> >
> > And then it begs the question of what happens to the people who worked
> > that industry? A couple billion dollars to a handful of producers to
> > sustain production provides employment to a whole lot of people. If we
> > didn't prop up the crop price, we would have spent just as much, if
> > not a whole lot more on other programs to help the unemployed.
> >
> >
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