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Re: [OM] Wings over Gatineau air show

Subject: Re: [OM] Wings over Gatineau air show
From: "Walters, Martin" <Martin.Walters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:36:20 +0000
Chris:
Interesting, but sad comments.  The only planes (other than the purpose built 
acrobatic planes) doing barrel rolls were the P-40 and the Sabre.  Last year, 
the Spit also did so as pRt of its routine. 

The Firefly has a Griffon engine, so should have adequate power (though it's a 
big plane).

Martin 

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From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:58 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] Wings over Gatineau air show

I was at Duxford in 2003, with Gary Edwards (formerly of the Olympus List), 
when the Fairey Firefly of the Royal Naval Historic Flight crashed.

I watched him enter a barrel roll quite a way from crowd centre (east of the 
M11 motorway) and then watched as the nose dropped way too far and failed to 
recover.  I spoke to a colleague who has flown a fair number of historic 
aircraft and he understood that the aircraft had been fitted with a detuned 
Merlin and it needed a highish entry speed for any vertical manoeuvres.  The 
pilot in this case had probably entered the barrel roll at too low a speed.

Barrel rolls are pretty dangerous manoeuvres at low level and have to be 
treated with the greatest of care.  I watched a Typhoon (Eurofighter) enter a 
low-speed barrel roll in 2005 (I think) at Fairford and then lost sight of him 
behind a single-story marquee.  His timely selection of burner on the massive 
engines in that aircraft stopped him hitting the runway, but he came within 
feet of dying.

Two friends of mine have died in low level barrel rolls, one in a Jet Provost, 
one in a Hawk.

Chris

On 18 Sep 2013, at 12:16, Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Fairey Firefly, methinks. But I have never seen wing roundels that 
> small, nor with a yellow edge.

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