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Subject: Re: [OM] Work for nothing ?
From: Chris Crawford <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:51:06 -0400
That's about where it needs to be here. In Indiana, $15.51 an hour would
enable a worker to support a family in a decent, though not by any means
luxurious lifestyle. But they'd have decent housing and food. That's twice
our minimum wage, and we have real unemployment of about 25% nationally
and about 30% where I live. So much for the conservatard argument that
paying decent wages causes unemployment (I've always argued that it didn't
matter, since low-wage jobs are in some ways worse than being unemployed).

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On 10/19/11 3:02 AM, "Andrew Fildes" <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Australia - $15.51 or $589.30 per week.
>And we have about a 5% unemployment rate at present.
>Dollar is around parity at present and cost of living about equivalent, I
>think. 
>Except for camera stuff which is overpriced.
>
>The full scale -
>For junior employees, the minimum rates are:
>Under 16 years of age  $5.71
>At 16 years of age   $7.34
>At 17 years of age   $8.96
>At 18 years of age   $10.59
>At 19 years of age   $12.80
>At 20 years of age   $15.15.
>For apprentices, the rates are:
>Year 1 of apprenticeship $9.93
>Year 2 of apprenticeship $11.74
>Year 3 of apprenticeship $14.45
>Year 4 of apprenticeship $17.16.
>The rate is argued out between Unions, Business and Government at an
>independent Arbitration Commission.
>Does this mean that we're socialists or something?  :-)
>Andrew Fildes
>afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>On 19/10/2011, at 2:25 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>
>> A lot of states have no minimum wage, or one that is lower than the
>>Federal
>> $7.25 wage. In those cases, the Federal minimum is enforced. The sad
>>thing
>> is, $13 an hour is an almost incredible, impossible to get wage for
>>most of
>> the college educated young people in our country today. I know that
>>anytime
>> a business here offers wages that high, they get thousands of
>>applications
>> almost overnight! No one pays that much anymore, at least not for jobs
>>young
>> grads are hired for.
>> 
>> 
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>> Chris Crawford
>> Photography & Graphic Design
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-747-5101
>> 
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> 
>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/18/11 11:19 PM, "Mike Lazzari" <watershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>> The US minimum wage....
>>> ...is actually set for practical purposes by most individual states.
>>> Here in Washington it is currently set to increase to $9.04/hr Jan 1.
>>> Still not a living wage. The minimum wage is another form of corporate
>>> welfare. Walmart was notoriously known for giving employees information
>>> on how to collect food stamps. With GE touting bringing home the jobs
>>> from overseas and paying employees $13/hr  it's no wonder US can
>>> complete with 3rd world countries. We are one.
>>> 
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._minimum_wages>
>>> 
>>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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