Thanks again Moose--I do like both of these better in your latest versions and
indeed prefer them to my own.
As for the scanner, I am at a loss. When I see the output histogram, I see not
spikes or cutoffs or holes. I see a normal, smooth histogram. I will try to
play a bit more with the shadows & highlights tool in PS when processing my
next batch of negatives. In the past I used it more but then gave it up because
I found that it gave an unnatural look. But your demonstration is quite
convincing.
Cheers,
Nathan
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On Mar 27, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Moose wrote:
> On 3/26/2011 12:38 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> Thanks Moose, I really appreciate the efforts.
>
> You are very welcome. You already know I don't usually play with an image
> unless I already like it, or see something I
> expect to like in it. As to effort, they say if you do what you love, you'll
> never work a day in your life. :-)
>
>> You know post processing is not my strength (that's an understatement :-)).
>> I do not think it is an issue with the scanning software, Epson Scan.
>> Rather, I just do not like to play with curves etc. in Photoshop. The only
>> reason I even use Photoshop on these images is that it is easier to clean up
>> dust spots etc. than with Lightroom.
>
> Two points:
>
> 1. I think it is an issue with Epson Scan. Simple reasoning points that way:
>
> a. Tri-X has been around since 1954.
> b. XTOL is also a Kodak product that's been around for decades.
> c. If that combo did weird things like I see in these images, Kodak would
> have changed the developer.
> d. If that combo did weird things like I see in these images, everybody
> would already know it.
> e. Therefore, the problem isn't in the negatives.
> f. You say you don't do any post processing work that could do it.
> g. Therefore, it is happening in the scanning step.
> h. Tests of that scanner don't show the big highlight spike.
> i. Therefore, it is happening in the software.
>
> For reasons I won't bore you with, I have ended up with Canon scanners, Epson
> photo printers and HP general printers. So
> I have no experience with EpsonScan. The problem with the above logic is that
> the B&W and color scans using EpsonScan in
> Vincent Oliver's extensive review of the V700 on photo-i don't show any such
> effect.
> <http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson%20V700/page_11.htm>
>
> Is it possible that at some point you moved one or more or more settings
> away from the defaults and they stayed that way?
>
> 2. I wasn't suggesting that you take up more post processing. I was
> suggesting that proper scanning results should be a
> lot closer to what I ended up with than what you are getting now - without
> post processing beyond what you are already
> doing.
>
> Even just a tiny bit of post can work wonders for some problems, though. I've
> added the first step I did on the first
> image. This is the result of adjusting two sliders in one tool in PS, only a
> few seconds.
> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Others/Wajsman/Sometimes_I_Use_Film&image=SIuf_Plaza_deA_ShHi.jpg>
>
>> Having said all this, there is also the question of preferences--I tend to
>> lean towards muted tones and dislike overprocessed images (part of the
>> reason why I have never gotten much into post-processing). Your examples are
>> not in that category, and I definitely like what you did with the first
>> image, and to a lesser degree with the couple walking on the pier.
>
> I didn't do much to the first one. The couple on the pier got quite a lot of
> attention - a bigger challenge, you see.
> :-) You'll probably prefer the 50% solution I added.
> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Others/Wajsman/Sometimes_I_Use_Film&image=SIuf_Playa_de_Postiguet50.jpg>
>
>
>
> Moose
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