Hi Chuck,
I certainly agree with your suggestion. As you probably know I love photo
retouching, skin retouching, raw workflow, color management, etc... but I
agree with the child's mom. My photography vision is getting biased towards
something conservative. I miss those days taking pictures with my OM4Ti and
then projecting my slides, am I getting old? :O but I fully agree with your
suggestion at 100%.
Take care and thanks again for being so kind sharing your ideas with me.
Dave
2011/3/9 Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> I didn't mean that the photo as a whole was oversatured. It's not. I
> simply meant to suggest selecting the rash affected area and reducing
> the red saturation there as possibly an easy way of solving the problem.
> Or you could slightly desaturate the whole image in a separate layer,
> add a black mask to expose the fully saturated image below and then
> feather in the affected cheek area using white paint on the mask using a
> brush with low flow and opacity.
>
> Now, having said that, I have to mention that I once offered to "fix" a
> big red "boo boo" on a young child's face. Seems he had taken quite a
> fall recently and really did an ugly job on himself. But mom rejected
> my offer out-of-hand. Much to my surprise she considered the photo (a
> formal studio portrait) documentation of his antics and wanted to be
> able to show it to him when he grew up. :-)
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 3/9/2011 8:33 AM, David Irisarri wrote:
> > Thanks Moose and Chuck four all your detailed explanation and compliments
> on
> > the picture. Certainly she has a kind of rash or something similar as her
> > mum told me she was putting cream on her cheek. Good eye :)
> >
> > I agree with you about the slightly over saturation but I didn't post
> > process the image at all. I am again starting to enjoy taking pictures as
> I
> > did with my OM4Ti. :) No post processing at all.
> >
> > Anyway thanks for your help.
> >
> > David
> >
> > 2011/3/9 Chuck Norcutt<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >> I also think this is a great shot but agree with what Moose said about
> >> reducing the too bright background. I didn't notice the cheek so much
> >> but it does look a bit too red and may be a rash. A slight reduction of
> >> the saturation on the red channel there might be in order.
> >>
> >> I'll also give good marks to Adoramapix (Adorama Camera's photo
> >> processing division). You can download profiles for all of the papers
> >> they use and you'll get a good color match if you have a profiled
> >> monitor. They also have very good prices but I only use Adoramapix if I
> >> have lots of time. I've waited as long as two weeks to get my prints
> back.
> >>
> >> Millers is also very good but, the last I knew, Millers only served pros
> >> who establish an account promising a given volume of work. I used to
> >> have work done by Millers when I was using my photo mentor's account
> >> but, on my own, I've never had the volume they wanted to establish my
> >> own account. But for those of us who only print in small volumes there
> >> is an alternative which is Mpix.com. Mpix is a subsidiary of Millers.
> >> It's mostly a distinction without a difference since the prints are
> >> produced on identical equipment. The only difference I've been able to
> >> see is that Mpix has a slightly smaller paper and print size selection.
> >> But the print quality is just as good as Millers and, like Millers,
> >> they do a fast turnaround... usually just one day to process and get
> >> your prints in return priority mail.
> >>
> >> Both Adoramapix and Millers/Mpix offer "no adjustment" processing. I
> >> can't recall Adoramapix's pricing policy but Mpix offers a reduced price
> >> if you order prints with no adjustments. I carefully adjust the color
> >> on my monitor and sharpen at print size and resolution so I don't want
> >> any tech doing further adjustments. For Adoramapix I size at 300 ppi
> >> but use 250 ppi for Mpix (their stated print resolution). I find that I
> >> have to use Adoramapix's paper profiles to get accurate color but have
> >> not found that to be necessary for Mpix. As long as I send Mpix an sRGB
> >> image it will be reproduced accurately. Do NOT send Mpix anything other
> >> than sRGB since they will convert it to sRGB if you do. Most large photo
> >> processors serving the pro market expect only sRGB images.
> >>
> >> Chuck Norcutt
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/8/2011 9:45 PM, Moose wrote:
> >>> On 3/8/2011 1:15 PM, David Irisarri wrote:
> >>>> I have come to live to NJ
> >>>
> >>> Wow! Welcome.
> >>>
> >>>> and my future mother-in-law is asking me where she can get printed
> >>>> the pictures I took the other day from her granddaughter. I would
> >>>> like to find a place that can print them with perfect color
> >>>> matching and great quality. I know of several places in Spain but I
> >>>> don't know which are the best labs in USA.
> >>>>
> >>>> She specially wants this picture I took with the Olympus E-P1.
> >>>> http://zuiko.smugmug.com/photos/1204931599_oTT6C-X3.jpg This
> >>>> picture has a high contrast and I want it to be printed with this
> >>>> tonal curve.
> >>>
> >>> Wow again. That is gorgeous! What a great pose.
> >>>
> >>> The child is perfect for exposure and tonality, as you say. Were it
> >>> me, I'd be softening and toning down the bright, slightly edgy
> >>> background, so nothing pulls the eye away from the subject. I'd also
> >>> consider a tiny bit of clean-up of what appears to be dried food or a
> >>> slight rash on her left cheek.
> >>>
> >>> Wish I could help with the printing. I know some folks here find a
> >>> local place with a Fuji Frontier printer, get the printer profile for
> >>> it, output profiled image files for printing and tell the shop not to
> >>> make any adjustments. AG and others use Millers in the Midwest, a
> >>> huge pro printing operation. As I recall, they also have profiles
> >>> available, although others here have said their printing even without
> >>> them is excellent.
> >>>
> >>>> Hope you like it.
> >>>
> >>> Oh, Yeah!
> >>>
> >>> Moose
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