On 24 Jan 2011, at 11:06 AM, Moose wrote:
>>
>> "Lonely beach, vantage point"
>> http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/023/e/6/lonely_beach_vantage_point_by_philosomatographer-d37voma.jpg
>> (90mm Macro wide open, Fomapan 100, printed on 8x10in RC Multigrade
>> paper - glossy)
>
> I like the subject/composition. I'd clone out the bright spot on the
> right. Just me, I suppose, ('cause it's a great
> lens, right?) but I just am not comfortable with the bokeh. Seems
> like the background is OOF about the right amount, but
> not in the right way. Well, the figures on the beach are ok, but the
> buildings and trees bug me. Like there's some kind
> of edginess hiding under the softness? Wish I could describe it
> better.
>
> Yeah, it may seem I really have it in for the 90/2, but I swear I
> looked and reacted before noticing which lens was
> used. :-)
Hmm. First of all, the bright spot on the right is not some kind of
reflection, it's an out-of-focus light in
the background. Honestly, Moose, for the life of me I cannot imagine a
softer, less-edgier rendering of OOF
areas than the 90 Macro, and I feel this is represented in my image!
(funny how people can see things so
differently). There is simply nothing edgy about it!
But more importantly, I actually don't care that much in the first
place - the important thing is that this lens
has the ability to throw a distant background OOF with a distant
subject, and that is precisely what I needed
for this shot, without using a string telephoto. Perhaps I
participated in this, but we live in a time now
where people sadly look at the "nature" of the OOF are even more than
the nature of the in-focus subject!
That's just not right...
Of course, the edginess you see may be due to my sharpening for web
viewing (always a contentious topic with you! :-)
>> "The Specialists"
>> http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/023/d/8/the_specialists_by_philosomatographer-d37vqba.jpg
>> (21mm at f/4, Kodak TMY2-400, printed on 8x10in RC Multigrade paper -
>> glossy)
>
> The body positions of the guys are perfect. I like that there is
> detail held through the windows. I like the tones in
> the many various kinds of reflections. I'd try cropping everything
> to the left of the left hoist upright. It seems to me
> it doesn't add anything to the story and losing it would tighten up
> the image.
Thanks, Moose! Your cropping observation is very valid. I guess one
easily falls into a common trap: If one took a very wide image
with a 21mm lens, one is often hesitant to crop away too much of that
FOV that one "paid for" - but in this case, there is a strong
argument to lose the outer left area. When I make another print, I'll
give it a try (no point in cropping my digital posts online,
what I really care about are the prints, and these scans are
absolutely unaltered from the prints, except for sharpening).
Thank you again. Your cropping suggestion might just turn a nice print
into a great one.
Dawid (still-disagrees-with-Moose-about-the-90-Macro) Loubser
> Moose
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