That's interesting. Has the same thing happened to #2 fuel oil which I always
considered essentially the same as diesel? Fortunately, I don't have to buy #2
fuel oil any more.
Chuck Norcutt
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Bill Pearce <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx>
> To: 'Olympus Camera Discussion' <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] Saving the planet or just saving money?
> Sent: Nov 15 '10 13:59
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> Not true. Diesel requires more special processing at the refinery to remove
> sulfur, now regulated. Refineries have spent millions of dollars designing
> and buiilding special units that remove sulfur, and so pass on the cost plus
> a substantrial markup to the consumer. At least it doesn't have ethanol.
>
>
>
> Bill Pearce
>
>
>
> From: chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:53 PM
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] Saving the planet or just saving money?
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>
>
> In the US diesel fuel is more expensive than gasoline. Peculiar since
> diesel requires less refining.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
>
> > -------Original Message-------
> > From: Wiliam Wagenaar <wiliam@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: 'Olympus Camera Discussion' <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [OM] Saving the planet or just saving money?
> > Sent: Nov 15 '10 10:15
> >
> > I recently bought a 2003 Toyota Avensis Verso Diesel (D4D Engine). I was
> looking for Automatic transmission like my previous '95 Toyota Picnic on
> Gasoline had. Was told Toyota did not have the combination of Diesel and AT
> available. (at least for NL/Europe). In the Netherlands on the 2nd hand
> market te price difference is quite small between Diesel AND Gas fueled cars.
> Because I drive 25000km a year on average the Diesel is very interesting with
> it's 15.7 km/l so far against 10.0 km/l for the smaller Picnic's we had
> before. Especially since Diesel costs about €1,15 per liter against €1,48 for
> the gasoline.
> >
> > Thing is, in the Netherlands you also pay "ownership taxes" (free
> translation from "houderschapsbelasting") In our case it means €125,-/month
> for the Diesel against +/- € 62,-/month for Gasoline car of the same weight.
> Since I already drove 11000km with the car since I got it late July, I'm
> still good with the diesel.
> >
> > Wiliam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: maandag 15 november 2010 19:04
> > To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [OM] Saving the planet or just saving money?
> >
> > > I don't believe Toyota sells diesel cars in the US. The prodominance of
> > > murricans that have not driven diesels in Europe seem unable to
> understand
> > > that it is possible to make on that is virtually indistinguishable from
> gas.
> >
> >
> > Now you are bringing up a very sore subject for me. It's not that the
> > consumer doesn't want them, it's literally impossible to buy one and
> > when you can get one, the idiots have mated it up with an automatic
> > transmission which blows up because it can't handle the torque.
> >
> > AG
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