The most recent consensus: Beattie and Oly 2 screens cause slight
overexposure with teles and underexposure with wides (or vice versa).
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Rick Beckrich wrote:
> Not after Dr. Hermanson fixes 'em, Chris. [?]
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Chris Crawford <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> wrote:
>
>> That screws up the metering in the OM-1 and it messes up manual metering
>> and
>> the finder's meter display in auto mode, though auto exposures are still
>> correct on the OM-2.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Crawford
>> Photography & Graphic Design
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-747-5101
>>
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>
>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work!
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>>
>> On 7/9/10 3:36 PM, "Rick Beckrich" <rbeckrich@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> A SOLUTION FOR THE BUDGET MINDED
>>>
>>> (At least those of us who can't budget for either a 3 or 4ti)
>>> Intall a OM 2 series screen or a Beattie in your ON -1n or 2n (or 1 or 2)
>>> and you will experience Dawids revalation too.
>>>
>>> Happy with my 1 & 2 "twos"
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Chris Crawford <
>> chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I've been using a pair of Leica M6 bodies with 35mm and 50mm lenses for
>> a
>>>> while now. Haven't touched my OM-4T bodies in months.
>>>>
>>>> I know the popular notion is that RF cameras are great for wideangles,
>> but
>>>> I
>>>> agree with Dawid that they're not. Leicas have built in finders set up
>> for
>>>> 28mm or 35mm as the widest focal length (depending on the model you have
>>>> and
>>>> what finder options you got), so you need accessory finders for wider
>>>> lenses. This is a pain because you have to look through the normal
>> finder
>>>> to
>>>> focus using the rangefinder, then switch to the accessory finder to
>> compose
>>>> the photo. For wider lenses, I think an SLR is best and as Dawid said,
>> the
>>>> 2-series focusing screens in an OM-4T or 3T are incredible.
>>>>
>>>> I actually think that 50mm is the ultimate rangefinder lens. The
>> framelines
>>>> float in the middle of a large finder allowing you to easily see what's
>>>> going on outside the frame, and the projected framelines make it easier
>> for
>>>> me to line up horizontal and vertical lines in buildings to allow me to
>>>> hold
>>>> the camera level, something I have a hard time with sometimes with SLRs.
>>>>
>>>> The REAL difference between the OM-4T/3T system and the Leica though is
>>>> shutter release lag. The mirror in the OM-4/4T/3/3T/2sp bodies is
>>>> excruciatingly slow moving. I find it near impossible to capture
>> fleeting
>>>> candid moments with my OM bodies, and have missed literally thousands of
>>>> shots because of it. The Leica fires INSTANTLY and it has improved my
>>>> street/candid type photography a million times. Other SLRs are not as
>> bad
>>>> as
>>>> the Oms; I have an old Nikon F4 and its near as fast as a Leica, maybe
>> as
>>>> fast. I have no trouble shooting street with it, but the damned thing is
>>>> HUGE and HEAVY. The Leicas are huge and heavy enough compared to the
>> OMs,
>>>> I'm not willing to carry anything bigger. The Shutter lag issue is
>> really
>>>> the main thing keeping me using my Leicas over my OM-4T bodies now. Its
>>>> revolutionized my work in a way I never guessed possible, and I normally
>>>> don't think gear matters that much. The rangefinder has a lot of
>>>> limitsations. It sucks for wides as Dawid said and it sucks for long
>>>> lenses.
>>>> I really think my Leicas work best for 50mm and good/ok for 35mm but
>> that's
>>>> it. Within that limitation, they can deliver fast action shots better
>> than
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-424-0897
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/9/10 1:58 PM, "Dawid Loubser" <dawidl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09 Jul 2010, at 7:37 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a while there, I really though life couldn't get better than an
>>>>>>> OM-1
>>>>>>> for my needs (an all-manual camera) but boy was I wrong. And it's
>>>>>>> actually got nothing to do with the multi-spot metering.
>>>>>> 1/2000, right?
>>>>> 1/2000s is great, yes. But oh my, that viewfinder... There are many
>>>>> subtle differences between the design of the OM-1/2 viewfinder and
>>>>> the OM-3/4. OM-1/2 is bigger, yes. But oh my, the 3Ti/4Ti has the most
>>>>> gorgeous, accurate-focusing, flare-free, bright, crisp viewfinder
>>>>> ever made by man.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, I have looked through a Leica R8/R9 viewfinder before.
>>>>> A 3Ti/4Ti with 2-series screen offers a viewfinder experience which
>>>>> is superior in every way for composition and focusing to any other
>>>>> camera, including rangefinder cameras. It's simply... amazing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it funny how one is supposed to be "more accurate" /
>>>>> "quicker focusing" with wide angles and a rangefinder, but
>>>>> my 21mm F2 with this viewfinder is simply apparently as bright
>>>>> as what the subject seems with the naked eye. It's completely
>>>>> unbelievable. And the "feel" one develops for the focusing through
>>>>> the ultra-high-resolution focusing screen simply opens possibilities
>>>>> not possible with any rangefinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I seem very Anti-rangefinder, but I was seriously, seriously
>>>>> considering an M-series rangefinder with a fast 24mm or 21mm as my
>>>>> "definitive" 35mm film camera. I tried some out. Verdict: There is
>>>>> simply no comparison, a 3Ti is superior in every respect except for
>>>>> greater noise and viewfinder blackout. Those are, simply put, the only
>>>>> reasons to use a rangefinder in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Olympus Wides, especially the 21mm F2, are smaller, more versatile,
>>>>> vignette less, and 95% optically as good as the Leica M lenses. For
>>>>> hand-held photography, you will never see a technical difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 3Ti has imparted a kind of "ultimate pleasure" in terms of the
>>>>> OM system to me. I am re-discovering the wonder of the lenses as I
>>>>> can now, for the first time, truly "see" the excellence and the
>>>>> character of the lenses through this wonderful viewfinder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> With auto-exposure, life is a lot simpler and easier. But how a manual
>>>>>> camera affects me directly is I am constantly monitoring the light and
>>>>>> seeing what it is doing. This greater awareness of light is
>>>>>> translating into better pictures because I end up seeing things I
>>>>>> normaly don't see. Let me try to explain:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Photographer with auto-everything camera sees subject. Photographer
>>>>>> with auto-everything camera photographs subject.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Photographer with manual camera sees subject. Photographer with
>>>>>> manual camera sees light. Photographer with manual camera uses light
>>>>>> as part of the composition which usually requires relocation and/or
>>>>>> exposure modification. Photographer photographs subject with improved
>>>>>> light.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Photographer learns that if he uses an incident light meter all the
>>>>> time,
>>>>> he gets 100x better at "reading the light" (and ultimately no longer
>>>>> needing a light meter for 95% of situations) than what any in-camera
>>>>> meter
>>>>> will teach him :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> all the best, Ken -
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawid
>>>>
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