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Re: [OM] I was wrong

Subject: Re: [OM] I was wrong
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:57:28 -0400
I'm glad you and Velvia can make music together.  The only thing I don't 
forgive is the 1,000th misspelling of "cheap".  Cheep, cheep is the 
sound a little birdie makes.  "Cheap" means it doesn't cost much or is 
of low quality.  :-)

Chuck Norcutt


Ken Norton wrote:
> Mark the date down.  The Schnozz admits error!  (also note, that Moose
> indicated his absence, so maybe I can get away with this without too much
> grief)
> 
> Lately, I've been promoting film like it's going out of style.  Oh, wait, it
> is.  Anyway, I've worked hard this past year on settling in on a selection
> of decent color print films. For the record, here are my favorites and why I
> like them.
> 
> 1. Fuji 160S - Extremely fine grain, and nearly identical to the Olympus
> E-1--enough so that the files are interchangeable. Probably the most
> "usable" film I've ever used.
> 
> 2. Kodak 160NC - Skintones that can't be beat. Extremely fine grain.
> 
> 3. Fuji Reala - Similar to 160S, but with a touch more punch.
> 
> 4. Kodak 400VC - Punchy, fine-grain, and high speed. What's not to like?
> 
> 5. Fuji Superia 400. A bit grainy in the scans, but highly usable, neutral
> with no bad habits. Oh, did I say cheep?
> 
> 6. Fuji 400H - 160S at a higher speed and tight grain.  Colors aren't quite
> a perfect match as 400H is kinda a cross between 160S and 160C. I like the
> shadows.
> 
> I could live life very nicely shooting Fuji 160S as my mainline film. All of
> these films scan well enough and are so well behaved with no weird
> characteristics that I can recommend any of them without hesitation. So
> where am I wrong? Why the error of my ways?  For all of my normal paying
> work (event, portrait, wedding, etc)., having a film and digital camera that
> matches each other is necessary and my selection of Fuji 160S is a perfect
> choice. I have no intentions of changing any time soon.
> 
> But for the rest of my photography? Is it still the perfect choice?  I have
> learned that it isn't.  Not for me and my own specific filing methods and
> post-processing procedures. Let me explain how things have worked for me for
> years:
> 
> 1. Shoot slide film of various subjects. A roll may last minutes, hours,
> days or weeks.
> 2. Have film processed and get the little box back.
> 3. Open box and quickly run through the stack on my portable light-table.
>  Toss the obvious flubs so I never see them again.
> 4. File the individual slides in archival slide sheets. When the roll
> contains multiple subjects, place the slides in new sheets or add to
> existing sheets in the file-folders containing those subjects.  Only toss
> out the "this will NEVER be used and I'll be embarrassed if anybody saw
> these shots after I'm dead".
> 5. Immediately scan a few images of interest, but otherwise let the slides
> rest.
> 6. Occasionally surf through the file-folders looking for gold, scan, print,
> etc., return slide to sheet/folder.
> 7. When searching for something else, find gem, scan, print etc., return
> slide to sheet/folder.
> 8. When a request for a photo of a certain subject comes along, I grab the
> appropriate file folder(s) and quickly find any and all appropriate images.
> Scan, print, etc., return slide to sheet/folder.
> 
> The point is, my filing system and method of working is based on slides. I'm
> good with B&W negs, as those are easily "readable" but I've never been able
> to successfully ready a color negative. Nor, am I good with digging through
> on-screen thumbnails.  Looking at a thumbnail is not the same as looking at
> a sheet of slides with a loupe standing by for critical analysis.
> 
> I'm about to declare the mid-to-late '90s the "lost years".  I've been
> losing my images not due to physical misplacement or hard-drive failure
> (although, I've lost some due to technology failures), but through shear
> organizational mismatchment to my way of operating.
> 
> Is my filing system a problem?  Obviously.  But over the years I developed a
> system that works for me and my usual choice in film. It is actually very
> similar to how stock agencies files trannies for years. Am I hopelessly
> stuck in my ways?  Possible, but the problem is my system if highly tuned to
> one specific type of "raw" image.  Color negs don't mingle well for me.  The
> digital files are organized in the same manner as the slides.
> 
> Why not just scan the negs and place them in the same folders as the rest of
> the digital images?  Time, effort and storage costs.  Only a fraction of my
> non-event/portrait/wedding images ever get used. Why invest further time on
> something that may never be touched again? With my slides, they just take up
> space in the sheets, but every once in a while I'll come across one which in
> the digital world or in a scanned world, would have never made it--it would
> have been deleted or skipped. These images are lost forever. Either lost
> through deletion or lost through the fact that I'll never closely look at
> them in the archival sheets again. If they were "great" they would have been
> scanned immediately, right?  Again, B&W negs aren't that much of a problem
> since I can "read" them.
> 
> So, I was wrong.  I thought I could convert entirely over to C41 for color
> film work.  I can't.  For event/portrait/wedding, there is no question that
> C41 rules, but for that my process-flow is entirely different than it is for
> speculation, stock and art photography.
> 
> As a result of this soul-searching, I cancelled my film order in
> progress--nearly $400 worth for the remainder of 2009 and have been
> reevaluating things. I absolutely love Fuji Velvia. It sees the world the
> way I like to see the world.  Why do I want to "match" digital with film?
>  If I want the standard "look", I'll shoot digital or 160S. But I like the
> way Velvia renders my world. Is it more expensive than 160S?  Yes, the cost
> per shot is about 75% more.  But what is the final result worth to me?  If I
> can be happy with the results and not think "I can fix this in post", it's
> worth some of that.
> 
> But most importantly, the cost savings of C41 films isn't worth the altered
> filing system and time spent evaluating negs. Time is money and the
> additional cost of Velvia more than pays for itself.
> 
> So, to wrap this treatise up, my new film order at B&H is for a ton of the
> new Velvia 100 (my new favorite, based on previous tests), mailers and
> enough 160S to get me through the year. (I will forever avoid Provia 100F
> like the plague as it has very poor resolution in comparison--only ignorant
> fools...oh, never mind)
> 
> I was wrong, so very wrong to write off E-6 films. Cost per shot is always a
> concern, but I really don't shoot that much and I'm even more picky and
> "pre-edit" the sludge out before pressing the shutter-release.
> 
> Will you forgive me for this transgression?
> 
> AG-Schnozz
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