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Re: [OM] Trip to the US?

Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?
From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" <wiliam@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:29 +0200
Hi Thomas,

Thanks for sharig your experiences with me. 

Surely there will be photos to view after the trip. 

Wiliam

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Thomas Heide Clausen [mailto:olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 5:38
> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?
> 
> 
> I'm not 'murican myself, but I've spend more than my share both in  
> the USA and in California (which I still think of as a separate  
> country) -- some of it rather recently, although for work and so in  
> relatively major metropolitan areas.
> 
> Couple of observations for you as to the only differences I've  
> observed as a consequence of the crisis:
> 
>       o       there're more people on the streets asking for 
> / begging for money
> 
>       o       the hospitality industry (read: hotels) still 
> behave as if guests  
> are made
>               of gold
> 
>       o       shopping is often bleeding cheap, as stores are 
> closing out. I got an
>               80% discount on a new briefcase, which I had 
> seen back home but
>               dismissed as possible due to it being too expensive
> 
>       o       my favorite Thai restaurant in San Francisco 
> has closed up for good.
>               Ruined my mood for a day or so last I was 
> there, as I had really
>               looked forward to my habitual scorched mouth.
> 
> I'm sure that if  you head into bad neighborhoods, dressed in gold  
> and screaming "I own AIG, Lehman Brothers and GM!", then you may  
> manage to get yourself into trouble. If you just do the usual  
> touristy stuff, going to usually touristy places then -- frankly --  
> even in crisis-hit USA you'll be safe ;) They might even be 
> welcoming  
> to you too
> 
> Now, Wiliam, as you have announced your vacation on the list, you  
> know that you're required to show off photos to us all when you're  
> back....?
> 
> Thomas
> 
> On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:10 , Wiliam Wagenaar wrote:
> 
> > Yes Chris,
> >
> > That is the kind of tent cities I heard about too. I also read that 
> > people first had to leave their homes and stores their 
> inventory in a 
> > storage facility. After a few months of non payments for 
> the storage 
> > their inventory was auctioned off.
> >
> > Thanks for your first answer also. I know there is hardly 
> anything I 
> > could have done to cause the current or to help stop it for that
> > matter.
> > I am not looking for an explanation for what happened, nor 
> am I trying
> > to find a scapegoat. I am merely asking will we be welcome and safe?
> >
> > Thanks for your time,
> >
> > Wiliam
> >
> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> Van: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Verzonden: vrijdag 3 april 2009 23:53
> >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion
> >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside 
> Sacramento, 
> >> California. The city was trying to find someplace to house all the 
> >> homeless people there, many of whom were middle class 
> people who had 
> >> lost their jobs, then their homes and everything else. 
> Remember that 
> >> in California housing is so drastically overpriced that 
> people can't 
> >> keep the house unless they QUICKLY find a job paying 
> nearly the same 
> >> as the old job they lost.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Crawford
> >> Fine Art Photography
> >> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> 260-747-3962
> >>
> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> >>
> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/3/09 5:49 PM, "Sue Pearce" <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tent cities? Where?
> >>> Bill Pearce
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" <wiliam@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:34 PM
> >>> Subject: [OM] Trip to the US?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US 
> this coming 
> >>>> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I 
> am having 
> >>>> mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about
> >> preparing for the
> >>>> trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other 
> hand I am 
> >>>> wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing 
> >>>> stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer
> >> being able to
> >>>> pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to
> >> live in tent
> >>>> cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody,
> >> but I feel
> >>>> like we might offend people because we are able to have a
> >> holiday in
> >>>> the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores
> >> more staff
> >>>> was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the 
> >>>> thoughts about this on the list?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and
> >> please believe
> >>>> me I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wiliam
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