24-300 doesn't strike me as "minimalist" :-)
Chuck Norcutt
khen lim wrote:
> Hi there all of you
>
> By now you would have known that Ken and I discussed this 'competition' and
> felt that Zone-10 can humbly offer a platform to provide gallery space so
> that your images can be displayed collectively in separate member accounts
> for all to view and appreciate. I for one am quite excited by this prospect
> and hopefully all of you will take advantage and showcase your best images.
>
> With regards to the parameters, let us first deal with the issue of whether
> or not this is a competition. I have given this a bit of thought on my own
> although I have yet to discussed this with AG Schnozz. Here are my
> thoughts:
>
> a. It's only a competition for the sheer heck of it. It's not going to be a
> 'serious' one but one that draws all of us together like a community that is
> partial to all things OM. Since this list is about those who appreciate OM,
> then the competition is held in a similar spirit.
>
> b. As a competition, we certainly don't have the resources (not yet anyway!)
> to provide a lucrative drawcard in the form of excellent prizes. AG
> mentioned turning his OM-3Ti into an Odyssey camera. That is a nice idea and
> a generous one on his part. All the same, we're not in the position to do
> anything else unless others within this same community were to offer his/her
> wares...I understand that NSURIT has some wonderful inventory to contribute
> in this regard :)
>
> c. And so it is, in effect, a competition then, but my idea is that everyone
> contributes individual points to the images on show. You visit an album
> belonging to one of the competitors and assess the images, then accord them
> individual scores, say, out of a perfect score of 10 for each. You may of
> course ignore those images you don't think even deserve any scoring if you
> like.
>
> d. After a certain period of time, we close all scoring and then tally the
> images. We can, for example, suggest that the top five scoring images get
> the privilege to participate in the OM-3Ti Odyssey (just an idea only -
> ditch it if you don't like it or have a better alternative).
>
> As for the types of cameras that qualify, Chris (Crawford) had even
> mentioned the 'Blad. Hmmm. Some others have suggested OMs other than the
> 3/3Ti. The idea that all of you seem to be centring on is that so long as
> you use it in Manual mode, it should be alright.
>
> I'm not sure what AG thinks of this but my humble opinion is that it ought
> to be OM. Maybe we should think about keeping it 35mm and then stick with
> OM. So long as you use Manual mode, you can use any of the following then:
>
> OM-1/1MD/1n, OM-2/2n, OM-2S Program, OM-3/3Ti, OM-4/4Ti as well as...
> OM-10/10QD, OM-20, OM-30/G, OM-40/PC and OM-2000
>
> You might also include the following (although they are not full-frame
> 35mm):
>
> Pen, Pen-EE, Pen-EED, Pen-F, Pen-FT, Pen-FV
>
> I suppose that there should not be any restriction to the use of focal
> length lens not to mention brand. You don't have to stick to Zuiko but it
> would be nice if you do. As for focal length, we might open this up or
> should we confine it to a range, say, from 24mm to 300mm or something like
> that?
>
> As for the topic, Minimalism is actually a very nice idea. However to define
> it might be a little more challenging. Let's see what and how everyone
> thinks of describing it. Maybe then we can 'formulate' the definition of
> Minimalism within the context of this competition.
>
> K.
>
>
> 2008/12/10 John Hermanson <omtech1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Yes, yes, OM-2 and OM4 (on manual).
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>> Dawid Loubser wrote:
>>> Hmm... I would imagine it's a more purpose-driven and specific
>>> competition if using
>>> manual-only cameras, but if there is enough interest for using 2's and
>>> 4's
>>> then so be it...?
>>>
>>> If we let loose on the OM gear that can be used, then I do think some
>>> specific
>>> guidelines around the subject matter are in order. So, does everybody
>>> think
>>> "minimalism" makes for a good topic for the subject matter?
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to see how you all interpret such a topic
>>> photographically -
>>>
>>> Lastly, any idea around time frames? Perhaps its a good idea to look
>>> at results after December,
>>> since during this holiday period many people will have a lot of time
>>> to photograph, but not
>>> to process and think about things.
>>>
>>> And our enlarger's timer is still busted :-) *and* I still need to
>>> learn to do hand printing
>>> properly...
>>>
>>> P.S. I really do feel that it would be preferable to limit to OM-1 and
>>> OM-3 (all-mechanical
>>> bodies) - not because the result necessarily looks any different from
>>> the electronic bodies, but
>>> because it was my rant on the photographic process with an OM-1/3 -
>>> which we have somehow "lost"
>>> with modern equipment - which got this idea started, and those bodies
>>> exemplify that process.
>>> Not only that, they enforce it. Even though, of course, we can follow
>>> it with any other body.
>>>
>>> I have been doing manual exposure + incident metering for quite some
>>> time with my 9FPS Canon EOS,
>>> which is why I could let it go so easily. But it's somehow not the
>>> same thing.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts? And Wayne, I don't think an OM-3 has any advantage over
>>> an OM-4 in terms of producing
>>> the photographic result, so there may not be anything to see...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 Dec 2008, at 4:18 AM, WayneS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Further amend proposal: to allow shooting in manual mode on an OM.
>>>> That way we can see if the 3Ti really has any advantage over
>>>> a 4T for instance. And to really see if it works, to use slide film,
>>>> which is less forgiving than print film..... As I recall, the shutter
>>>> on the OM-4t is still mechanical, come to think of it, so is the
>>>> E-1...
>>>>
>>>> WayneS
>>>>
>>>> At 12:51 PM 12/9/2008, David wrote:
>>>>> Dear AG, now you are really stirring the pot.
>>>>>
>>>>> May I propose an amendment to your proposal, whereby a shooting
>>>>> event/
>>>>> competition does not only include those (lucky buggers) who own
>>>>> an OM-3Ti, but rather to include the mechanical bodies in general?
>>>> ...
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